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Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

Another footballer has talked publically about his depression (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45510063) and I feel like some terms the media reports uses might put off some people talking about their struggles.

The big one is "admitting his own battle with depression". 'Admit' is a term we have come to use with crimes or other wrong-doing. Depression isn't a crime. It is not something that needs to be admitted as no-one is to blame. There's a lot of power in choice of words, especially when reporting on mental health.

Maybe I'm just being a bit pedantic. Just something I thought of today reading about that player.
I agree but that's the media for you. Like when they mention a famous person's "secret battle with cancer" No it wasn't secret it was private. They didn't want it all over the media.
 
Looking for some advice, my wife's sister's marriage broke down on Monday my in laws are all in shock and very angry at her husband (former), I'm especially worried about my sister-in-law she's not eaten more than a handful of food since Monday morning and has lost a stone already. I know it's early days still, but I was hoping for some advice on how I might be able to help her as my in-laws are honestly not much help to her at the moment with the anger clouding their thoughts and actions.
 
I've posted on here on and off before about work-related burnout over the last couple of years. Starting to feel as if I'm ready to give in to it soon. Had an unbelievably stressful year, and 2017 was not great either. Had a serious injury (twisted testicle FFS) that needed emergency surgery back in Dec last year which led to quite a bad bout of anxiety which came up as a reaction to that. Had 7 weeks off work after the op and then came back into a real difficult situation at work. At just the time when I needed stability there so I could focus on recovering from the health issues. To cut a long story short the most senior manager in the team wants to restructure a bit and move me into another team into a new role at a similar level. As well as moving someone else into my role who had previously been reporting to me. He didn't inform us all at the same time. I may well have been the last to find out, which led to a couple of humiliating situations that knocked my confidence a lot. The manager of the team I'm moving to doesn't seem to buy into the changes so is no hurry to get me set up and integrated in the new team. I kind of sympathise with him. He's had it dumped on him. But consequently I'm sort of in limbo, not really in any team properly, picking up scraps of work here and there. No objectives set for 2018 and its September already. It kind of leads me to feel that no one is arsed whether I'm there or not. Which is kind of a first world problem I guess but not a good situation to be in for a human being I don't think.

The worst was in June-July where for 4 weeks I was only sleeping 4 hours a night even at weekends. It's improved since then and I thought I had a handle on it. I was starting to get some plans together to get out of there and was feeling quite optimistic and I thought I'd found a way to not let things bother me. Then all of a sudden last weekend this low mood came over me. I was back home because my Dad had tickets for the test match so it should've been an enjoyable weekend but I just felt depressed and I don't know exactly why. I remember waking up having had some kind of dream about work, maybe that caused it. I also caught myself in the mirror and couldn't believe how old I look compared to before the op. It shocks me sometimes. Big black swollen bags under my eyes.

Ended up getting myself signed off sick on Weds. My GP had been recommending taking a couple of weeks off for a while, as did a counsellor I've been seeing. I'll probably get myself signed off next week too. It felt good in a way to go off, like I was taking my life back into my own hands and out of the hands of these managers. But it also feels strange when physically I'm capable of working. My GP told me to go out as much as poss, get exercise, meet friends, do fun stuff which I'm doing but there's a constant worry I'll get spotted. I don't know whether to tell the truth to my managers or whether to keep quiet. I'm scared that if I own up to being burnt out/depressed I'll get blackmarked or something. And equally if I don't own up I'm worried I'll be marked as a trouble maker bunking off work when he feels like it.

Also, if I'm being honest with myself I need to get out of there. It's just scary as the conditions are very good (financially at least) and I'm worried it might not improve
Yeah I think it might be the German way of handling it. Both the GP and the Counsellor I spoke to say it’s standard procedure to sign someone off for 2 weeks and recommend that they get out and about in that time because sitting around at home on your own won’t make things better.

I have to say I’m starting to feel a lot better since yesterday. I’ve had my alarm switched off and slept 8 hours a night the last few days. Maybe that’s started to have an effect. Been to the gym, met friends out for dinner etc. Feeling much less tense/low and no longer look like I’ve been 10 rounds with Tyson.

Still a bit worried about being spotted out and about but I guess if that’s the case I’ll just have to tell the truth. Been signed off this week but will probably go back to work in the next couple of days.



Thanks mate I’ll check the videos out. I got rid of IG a few weeks ago which has been brilliant. Still got FB and Twitter but will probably keep them.

my stress levels if I just leave, that it would feel like jumping into an abyss. I've got enough saved up to be able to quit without having anything lined up and take a break for a while, but still it's scary.

Anyway, I've gone on quite a bit. Just wanted to get it off my chest, and just fishing for some positive/encouraging comments I guess ;)

@anjelikaferrett is good at the work related stuff mate.

Depression can just fall upon you for no reason and that`s what can make it worse, as you try to shrug it off / fight it.

You sound like you`ve got a good GP there mate, so I`d maintain contact with him / her as much as possible.

There`s not many GP`s advocate exercise or meeting up with friends etc, which is wonderful advice ;)
Try not too worry about what others may think or say .
Keep focused on yourself and let others worry about themselves
 
I think it depends, I think people misunderstand aggression and anger. Being passionate isn't a bad thing, being aggressive is. I'm a pretty relaxed and nice fella, but if people are rude or disrespectful I get very annoyed to the point I have to leave the situation. As scousers, we can be very friendly but we can get very angry if people annoy us same with the Geordies and the Irish. I also think some people are just not cut out to work in certain environments like an office or a retail job, where there's always gonna be a least one divvy to annoy you. If you do a job outdoors or with a friend or limit your chance of getting annoyed. I find myself getting increasingly bad tempered as I get older, but it's just one of those things. I never really had anger problems as a kid, because I never really had that my problems as you get older you tend to get moodier. I've known people who are really angry fellas, but the nicest fellas you can meet, they're only bad if you are rude to them. I think it just depends who you're directing your anger at people who have done you harm or just random people who might do you harm.
Must been an age thing
I'm the same
Cynical of everything
 
I'm known as Dave n on here but for some reason my account locked me out so I'm trying again.
My Seperation is now in full swing. Moved into a bedsit last Sunday. I think my daughter of 13 is ok but I'm struggling with everything.
One thing I have done this week though was book myself in for an initial mental health assessment to see if anyone can once and for all sort my head out with mood swings and angry outbursts which I later regret.
Hopefully this is a step in the right direction but I don't have much confidence or faith in mental healthcare if I'm honest because when I was in the hm forces and asked for help they basically refused any help. Even the basics were to much. That was a few years a go though so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that hopefully I can find someone to work with.
There is help for ex-forces from a range of sources, depending on what you need. Not sure where you live but I may be able to point you in a direction but difficult without private messaging on here.
 

Another footballer has talked publically about his depression (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45510063) and I feel like some terms the media reports uses might put off some people talking about their struggles.

The big one is "admitting his own battle with depression". 'Admit' is a term we have come to use with crimes or other wrong-doing. Depression isn't a crime. It is not something that needs to be admitted as no-one is to blame. There's a lot of power in choice of words, especially when reporting on mental health.

Maybe I'm just being a bit pedantic. Just something I thought of today reading about that player.

For what its worth I did contact the BBC and they agreed and have changed it. I'm glad. I wouldn't like people to think depression is something to admit to.
 
There is help for ex-forces from a range of sources, depending on what you need. Not sure where you live but I may be able to point you in a direction but difficult without private messaging on here.
Hi mate I need anger management or just mental help. I'm not suicidal I just no due to mood swings and angry outbursts there is something not right. It's to late for my marriage but not for me. I really need to change.
I'm living in Shropshire and I've just spoken to combat stress who are getting back to me within 14 days.
 
Hi mate I need anger management or just mental help. I'm not suicidal I just no due to mood swings and angry outbursts there is something not right. It's to late for my marriage but not for me. I really need to change.
I'm living in Shropshire and I've just spoken to combat stress who are getting back to me within 14 days.

That's slightly outside my area (Merseyside) but Combat Stress know what they are doing, anger management is quite a specialist one but they should not be strangers to that one. Just out of interest, there some online support which has experience with veterans with mental health challenges, here is a link;

https://www.bigwhitewall.com/V2/corporateUK.aspx

Some further resources for anger management (with links to other issues) is below;

https://www.mind.org.uk/information...ems/anger/treatment-and-support/#.W5w7dKCZ200
 
Looking for some advice, my wife's sister's marriage broke down on Monday my in laws are all in shock and very angry at her husband (former), I'm especially worried about my sister-in-law she's not eaten more than a handful of food since Monday morning and has lost a stone already. I know it's early days still, but I was hoping for some advice on how I might be able to help her as my in-laws are honestly not much help to her at the moment with the anger clouding their thoughts and actions.
I’m no expert but I’d just say to offer to be there for her. Encourage her to be with people and do stuff. Time will help and so will being occupied.
 
Anyone got any advice regarding sleeplessness? My wife has been struggling to sleep for about 12 months. Even when she's exhausted it takes her hours to get to sleep. She tells me that she just can't shut her mind off at the end of the day.

Sleep is one thing I don't struggle with. I'm usually asleep as soon as my head hits the pillow, so I'm not sure how to help her.
 

Anyone got any advice regarding sleeplessness? My wife has been struggling to sleep for about 12 months. Even when she's exhausted it takes her hours to get to sleep. She tells me that she just can't shut her mind off at the end of the day.

Sleep is one thing I don't struggle with. I'm usually asleep as soon as my head hits the pillow, so I'm not sure how to help her.

Hi mate, I’ve had a lot of insomnia this year for the reasons I’ve been posting about over the last few days. I read up a bit about CBT-I and that it’s successful in 80% of cases. I then discovered these:

https://sleepstation.org.uk/
https://www.theinsomniaclinic.co.uk/

I went with the second one in the end and had a Skype session a couple of weeks ago. Next one next week. It’s quite pricey but I thought if you’re gonna invest in something then healthy sleep is as good a reason as any. There might be cheaper options around though.
 
Not had the best few days. Have cancelled all my plans with friends and plan on becoming a bit of a recluse for a while, least until hopefully I'm able to lift my spirits.

Decided to bin off social media, all it does is bring out the worst in people and it's too draining. Just not enjoying myself at the moment but I guess these mood slips pass after a few days, they usually do, but going forward in the future I know what I really can't be arsed with anymore.
 
Not had the best few days. Have cancelled all my plans with friends and plan on becoming a bit of a recluse for a while, least until hopefully I'm able to lift my spirits.

Decided to bin off social media, all it does is bring out the worst in people and it's too draining. Just not enjoying myself at the moment but I guess these mood slips pass after a few days, they usually do, but going forward in the future I know what I really can't be arsed with anymore.

If you`re going to fly solo for a while mate, why don`t you do treat yourself and do things that you really like doing, whatever that may be - cinema, gym, going for a walk, shopping, visiting somewhere you love, anything really, just to give yourself something to look forward to ?
 
Anyone got any advice regarding sleeplessness? My wife has been struggling to sleep for about 12 months. Even when she's exhausted it takes her hours to get to sleep. She tells me that she just can't shut her mind off at the end of the day.

Sleep is one thing I don't struggle with. I'm usually asleep as soon as my head hits the pillow, so I'm not sure how to help her.
My wife was the same
GOT some hr tablets from the doctors
Fine now
 

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