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Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

Steady on lads, this is probably the only thread on GOT where we don't question anyone's claims or accounts of experiences.

@counsillor cox @Groucho suggested you seek professional help as early as possible by getting to see your GP.

No-one here is professionally trained in mental health or psychiatry, we're a bunch of football fans who care about our fellow fans and offer general support, some advice and shared experiences.

So by all means post here but please go and get professional help.
 
I don't think anyone is doubting you here. Sounds like you're in a very tough spot. And depression, while everyone knows what it is and how bad it can be, is also very personal. Your pain is not ours, hence we can only offer fairly generic advice, not advice tailored to what you might actually need. But depression can be rough and destructive. And unfortunately, you won't just snap out of it. It's all baby steps in terms of dealing with it. Set small goals: go for a walk/run (vigorous exercise can clear the mind), reach out to a friend, try to get outside each day, etc. Do not drink as it will truly make it worse. Actively try to combat negative thoughts. It can seem like everyone is against you--they are not. Conquering negative thoughts is a huge step toward getting out of your situation. And silly as it sounds, if you own a pet (cat or dog) petting an animal actually has been shown to reduce anxiety and bring on better thoughts. There are lots of internet resources out there for dealing with depression. Take it up as a challenge to knock this sh_t back; it will involve you stepping outside yourself, as if you are a coaching someone else. But do try. And reach out to friends in the real world; internet forums are too impersonal to get a good connection with someone. Best of luck to you.
Fair cmment pal, just feeling desperate and reaching out in the wrong places.
 
Maybe i should have read the entire thread before i posted my own personal experiences. I feel as if ive misused this thread and apologise if i have. I understand this is a football forum and not somewhere to seek professional help. Sorry guys, just reaching for help in the wrong way.
 
Maybe i should have read the entire thread before i posted my own personal experiences. I feel as if ive misused this thread and apologise if i have. I understand this is a football forum and not somewhere to seek professional help. Sorry guys, just reaching for help in the wrong way.

No need to apologise mate. You've told us your experiences and shared your problems.

That's a good start to getting a solution.

Best now to get the professional help that will get you to a better place mentally as soon as you are able to do so.

Good luck, keep us informed of your progress
 

Maybe i should have read the entire thread before i posted my own personal experiences. I feel as if ive misused this thread and apologise if i have. I understand this is a football forum and not somewhere to seek professional help. Sorry guys, just reaching for help in the wrong way.

No need to apologise mate. Hope you can get to a better place - there's always a solution in life and people out there who can help you. Please don't feel helpless or alone, or embarrassed. It's good that you can talk/post about your experiences on this forum. If nothing else, by reading others who have posted, you will see that you are not alone in feeling the way you do. Take care mate.
 
Maybe i should have read the entire thread before i posted my own personal experiences. I feel as if ive misused this thread and apologise if i have. I understand this is a football forum and not somewhere to seek professional help. Sorry guys, just reaching for help in the wrong way.
What section were you on mate ? I'm not really clued up on differing ones but I know some come with a 117 aftercare action plan..... Basically this gives you the right to immediate action and treatment by a mental health team under the Mental Health Act.... If I'm wrong I deeply apologise but that's my limited understanding.
 
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Hi guys, not taking the piss here, i could do with some help, only been here a week so not had chance to read the full thread, im properly struggling to get my head around things, dont know which way to turn. Suffered with deppression for years, had professional help but didnt work. Got sectioned years ago, my mum died and the company i subcontracted for went bust, owing me £60k, in the same week. Tried to hang myself whilst in hospital and rather than them helping me i got a caution for criminal damage to the ceiling, on my mams ashes thats a true story. Any suggestions please, dont know where to turn. Again, im not taking the piss.

I,m coming into this late, so apologies if I duplicate anything that's already been said. If you are having suicidal thoughts you WILL be taken seriously by a GP or even an AE dept. If you are a danger to yourself or others ( I know you're not ) you will be assessed, more than likely by a Community Pysch Nurse. From there you will be passed onto a Pysch team of Doctors - usually 3 of them. The reason there are 3 of them is that at least 2 of them have to agree that you need help - majority vote, as they may decide to Section you, either voluntary or involuntary. I know that's probably not what you want to hear right now, but it really is for the best in this situation. Please please tell someone how you're feeling right now.
 
Alright everyone.

I've recently been going to see a someone every week for the past while about my social anxiety, it's something I've had my whole life to varying degrees and last year I came to the realisation that it was one of the key reasons for my depression.

I can't talk to strangers face to face, it leaves me feeling very nervous and uncomfortable which translates in my body language. It's meant my confidence has never been very high and I struggle to do simple things sometimes such as Uni work. I've been seeing a lady from a group called Inclusion Matters, some of you might have heard of them. Every week I go see her in a room and I clam up and go into my shell, I sit there with my arms folded, don't even take my coat off and don't generally say much. She's said that my defensive body language and that I close down under pressure which is correct like.

My point is I'm starting to feel as if the whole thing is a waste of time because I don't come away feeling any better or as if I've learnt something. The therapist is a very nice lady but I find she talks in circles and I can't relate to much of what she says. I tell her how my anxiety effects me, like how if I speak to a stranger how I'll run out of things to say and feel very foolish but she says stuff like "how do you know they'll be thinking that you look stupid?". I obviously don't know that, but I tell her that I can't allow myself to assume anything positive and that's my problem, but again it's just stuff like "they might think you're perfectly normal, stop assuming the worst." But that is the problem, people with anxiety can't help but assume the worst. I just don't find the stuff she tells me helpful to be honest, it feels as if she doesn't understand how bad my problem makes me feel no matter how I explain it. My body language obviously gives off the impression that I'm bored and not listening and I'm starting to get think that she's losing patience with me, but if I don't feel as if I'm gaining anything then how am I supposed to be upbeat?

Does anyone have any advice? Do you think I'm being a miserable arse or am I right to think she's just not getting it? I'm debating on whether to just sod it off but I know if I do then I'll likely never get referred again.
 
Alright everyone.

I've recently been going to see a someone every week for the past while about my social anxiety, it's something I've had my whole life to varying degrees and last year I came to the realisation that it was one of the key reasons for my depression.

I can't talk to strangers face to face, it leaves me feeling very nervous and uncomfortable which translates in my body language. It's meant my confidence has never been very high and I struggle to do simple things sometimes such as Uni work. I've been seeing a lady from a group called Inclusion Matters, some of you might have heard of them. Every week I go see her in a room and I clam up and go into my shell, I sit there with my arms folded, don't even take my coat off and don't generally say much. She's said that my defensive body language and that I close down under pressure which is correct like.

My point is I'm starting to feel as if the whole thing is a waste of time because I don't come away feeling any better or as if I've learnt something. The therapist is a very nice lady but I find she talks in circles and I can't relate to much of what she says. I tell her how my anxiety effects me, like how if I speak to a stranger how I'll run out of things to say and feel very foolish but she says stuff like "how do you know they'll be thinking that you look stupid?". I obviously don't know that, but I tell her that I can't allow myself to assume anything positive and that's my problem, but again it's just stuff like "they might think you're perfectly normal, stop assuming the worst." But that is the problem, people with anxiety can't help but assume the worst. I just don't find the stuff she tells me helpful to be honest, it feels as if she doesn't understand how bad my problem makes me feel no matter how I explain it. My body language obviously gives off the impression that I'm bored and not listening and I'm starting to get think that she's losing patience with me, but if I don't feel as if I'm gaining anything then how am I supposed to be upbeat?

Does anyone have any advice? Do you think I'm being a miserable arse or am I right to think she's just not getting it? I'm debating on whether to just sod it off but I know if I do then I'll likely never get referred again.


I,m not in a position to get back to you properly at the mo mate, but I will do. For the time being have a look at this site -

The Mental Health Forum.

It's an NHS run site and there's deffo a section there for people to chat / advise each other who have Social Anxiety problems.
 

Firstly you don't say how many times you've seen the lady from Inclusion Matters ?. If you've only seen her a couple of times she'll just be getting to know you and what's wrong with you, give it a bit more time.

Talking therapy isn't for everyone and it also isn't a magic bullet either, so don't get too hung up if it isn't for you.

You mention Uni ?.

Is there a mentor or someone who provides pastoral care for your course ?. If so go and see them, be honest with them, believe me they will have come across Social Anxiety before and will be experienced in dealing with it. They may refer you onto to a specialist service that work hand in hand with the Uni.

Lastly are there are any Society's within your Uni that interest you, if so join them. You,ll be around people who share common interests with you, that should ease your anxiety and help you make friends ?

Keep posting mate.
 
I tell her how my anxiety effects me, like how if I speak to a stranger how I'll run out of things to say and feel very foolish but she says stuff like "how do you know they'll be thinking that you look stupid?". I obviously don't know that, but I tell her that I can't allow myself to assume anything positive and that's my problem, but again it's just stuff like "they might think you're perfectly normal, stop assuming the worst." But that is the problem, people with anxiety can't help but assume the worst.
Ok, perhaps try it from another angle. Assume the worst and determine how bad the 'worst' really is. People might think you look stupid, well start off by saying, "this may sound stupid but...". Maybe start thinking of options, if it is the worst. Is it worth continuing the conversation?

When my kids were young & starting out at that horrible day care centre called school, I prepared them for bullies. I used to say that if you were picked on, take the power away from the Bully. For example;

Bully: "You're ugly"
lil Rat: "Ugly? You don't know the half of it! I'm so ugly, the dog hides in its box when I get home!"

Now, take all this with a pinch of Salt because my advice probably breaks all the conventions that Psychologists spend years learning, but my thought was to take the Bully's 'joke' away from them. When you take their power away from them, people start listening to you rather than them, and then you control where it goes, not them. Now, how does this have anything to do with your situation? Well, don't let them think you're 'stupid' and leave it like that (if you believe that's the case). Make a joke out of it, like "...did I just say that out loud? Ha! I haven't even had a drink yet!". Recover a situation that you feel uncomfortable about by making light of it. You need to understand, or learn, that it's ok to be a little silly, or be perceived as 'stupid'. If that's their opinion, move on regardless. You don't need to impress anyone in a Social situation.

As for running out of conversation, all you need to do is be aware of the latest news. When there's a bit of a pause, try something like; "...What about that thing in Italy last week? Did you see it?". Any news item can be a topic during a lull in conversation. Pick innocuous topics of course, you don't want to pick a controversial topic, just in case! Pick topics you are well familiar with.

Another thing...a conversation is a two way street. If there's a lull, that's because neither of you have something to say. Don't wear it all yourself. The other person is as much to 'blame' as you.
 
Alright everyone.

I've recently been going to see a someone every week for the past while about my social anxiety, it's something I've had my whole life to varying degrees and last year I came to the realisation that it was one of the key reasons for my depression.

I can't talk to strangers face to face, it leaves me feeling very nervous and uncomfortable which translates in my body language. It's meant my confidence has never been very high and I struggle to do simple things sometimes such as Uni work. I've been seeing a lady from a group called Inclusion Matters, some of you might have heard of them. Every week I go see her in a room and I clam up and go into my shell, I sit there with my arms folded, don't even take my coat off and don't generally say much. She's said that my defensive body language and that I close down under pressure which is correct like.

My point is I'm starting to feel as if the whole thing is a waste of time because I don't come away feeling any better or as if I've learnt something. The therapist is a very nice lady but I find she talks in circles and I can't relate to much of what she says. I tell her how my anxiety effects me, like how if I speak to a stranger how I'll run out of things to say and feel very foolish but she says stuff like "how do you know they'll be thinking that you look stupid?". I obviously don't know that, but I tell her that I can't allow myself to assume anything positive and that's my problem, but again it's just stuff like "they might think you're perfectly normal, stop assuming the worst." But that is the problem, people with anxiety can't help but assume the worst. I just don't find the stuff she tells me helpful to be honest, it feels as if she doesn't understand how bad my problem makes me feel no matter how I explain it. My body language obviously gives off the impression that I'm bored and not listening and I'm starting to get think that she's losing patience with me, but if I don't feel as if I'm gaining anything then how am I supposed to be upbeat?

Does anyone have any advice? Do you think I'm being a miserable arse or am I right to think she's just not getting it? I'm debating on whether to just sod it off but I know if I do then I'll likely never get referred again.
She's turning the structure of your answers back on to you ( it would appear ), it's a gentler way of asking you to question your own behaviours and beliefs..... A kind of 'look in the mirror and tell me what you see', it's very difficult for a practitioner to know exactly what your feeling or why you feel like that, when you can maybe figure out the triggers then therapy can be used to work on the triggers.......



That's my guess mate, stick with it.
 
A bit low tonight.

Under a bit of pressure at the moment.

A few disappointments.

Everton going out on penalties. You can imagine what that felt like.

Sometimes I should take my own advice. But still.
 

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