Do you get depressed after an ale binge?

[GwladysBlue]

Not just the Irish mate, heard loads of people call it The Fear.

Hate it so much. I am done with weekend binging.

Head over to the Depression thread in the Everton forum if it ever gets too much.

Always full of brilliant people who can over some advice, or just sharing their past experiences.

Drinking can be good. It's just trying to work out when to stop.

 

[GwladysBlue]

It is an age thing. The young don't have a clue how to drink sensibly. Just drink at a pace that suits you, don't be afraid to say you are fine and don't want another drink to your mates and just enjoy their company. Drinking is for socialising, not getting paralytic.........

That's easier said than done.

Once I go past the three pint mark, I can go all night. Everton playing on these Thursday nights is making it more than just a Friday/Saturday night thing, too.

 

[peteblue]

That's easier said than done.

Once I go past the three pint mark, I can go all night. Everton playing on these Thursday nights is making it more than just a Friday/Saturday night thing, too.

Indeed. But unless you try setting a limit it you will never achieve it.......when you achieve it, having a social drink becomes far more enjoyable, and not a testosterone challenge........

 

[TrixyStevens]

Few pints once a week is my limit. I try and stay away from spirits though I have a soft spot for Jameson, but only drink it in moderation. I stay away from everything else. Can't deal with really bad hangovers, there will probably come a time where I just give up the booze altogether but not for a wee while yet

 

[COYBL25]

When I was in my 20s, I could hit the beer or voddy, have a right session, and then I'd be fine the next day (probably a headache or hangover but that would be it.)

These days, if I hit the ale a few nights in a row, I feel depressed all day on a Sunday - even quite tearful and thoughts of doom.

Just me or anyone else get this?

As @chicoazul mentioned mate, a naturally releasing chemical called Cortisol is one of the major factors in the way you're feeling.

It's a naturally occurring chemical in the brain, that's released as part of the waking process.

It's also released when you're frightened or anxious too - hence why a lot of anxiety sufferers also have mad downers too.

In a nutshell, ale is a depressant and buggers up the balanced release of Cortisol -hence the anxiety and downer the morning after.

The only way to avoid the downer, is to moderate your drinking or stop altogether.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

* have a look at CORTISOL to get a handle on it.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Aye, heavy boozing is a young man's game. I'm increasingly a fan of a quiet pint or two before calling it quits.

Alcohol is linked to anxiety and depression - it's a bit chicken and egg in terms of what comes first, but personally when I've been feeling anxious or low the booze hasn't helped.

 

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@COYBL25

@GwladysBlue

Thanks fellas, good advice.

 

[COYBL25]

@COYBL25

@GwladysBlue

Thanks fellas, good advice.

The mad thing, is that Health Care Professionals seem to be completely oblivious to it.

I've suffered badly with anxietu for a long time and my absolute max for drinking now is five pints. Anything more and I get a crippling downer the following day.

Trying to stick to your limit can be very difficult at social events things like weddings and stag do's

 

[Bluerover]

Massively, and I'm only 24. Don't think it is an age thing.

I usually hit the drink heavily on the weekend, near enough every weekend. I never learn.

Usually remember very little of nights out, too, which makes everything 100 times worse.

I've been trying to get shandies on my rounds and getting just coke and pretending I've got rum or vodka in it.

The high isn't worth the next day.

Think the Irish call it 'The Fear'.

As others posted the Fear is not just an Irish term.

With binging there tends to be avoidance of proper food which leads to the body getting run down and vulnerable to the depressing effects of lots of alcohol.

Make sure you eat a high fibre breakfast with fruit. If making a smoothie add a couple of full beetroots to the fruit - really good detox in beetroot.

I know well that when on the tear we tend to ignore proper lunch/dinner and this means the body and nervous system is trying to deal with the alcohol without any help.

There is no quick fix for a hangover but a pint of fresh smoothie does help.

The experts will say moderation is the answer but I know that there are times when I feel like a good session.....and I am guilty of neglecting the food side so I know what the Fear is like.

Anyway tonight I have just dropped my dear Mum home and got back to my own - 190 mile round trip. Enjoying a couple of cold Guinness but bed soon so no fear of the Fear tomorrow

 

[chicoazul]

Oh I know mate. The doc prescribed me 28 x 5mg Diazepam many years back for when I started on an anti depressant (I used to get every side effect on leaflet so doc said Benzos would help in emergency until the Citalopram reached a therapeutic level which can happen between 4-6 weeks for most people).

I made them lovely yellow babies last nearly 3 years. Had the last two back in January when I was having a monster panic attack.

The maximum a benzo should be used continiously is 2 weeks. Anything beyond that and your body builds tolerance causing you to up the dose and then inevitably into dependency. Trying to quit benzos when you have a dependency is one of the toughest withdrawals there is out there, with affects lasting over a year often.

So a short term fix and commonly available drug that's for anxiety instead leads down the path of ruin. I sound even more of a boring tit posting this but there's a problem with benzos in society and it's those suffering most who inevitably succumb to it sadly.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

The reason I gave up the ale 9 years ago was the crippling after-day depression. It used to leave me with that 'something bad is going to happen' type of fear so I just said 'no more'. I look at people now who live for going on benders and I feel nothing but pity for them.

If the ale leaves you feeling rock bottom then just stop. You ain't missing nothing by not drinking.

Ever since I was young I was always the one to get off early, get drunk the quickest. I've never really enjoyed drinking. I enjoy the company I am in and have a few beers sometimes but I've never ever felt comfort in getting pissed. I can totally sympathise with alcoholics who depend on it mentally and physically and it sickens me we tax them on it.

 

[GBH73]

As @chicoazul mentioned mate, a naturally releasing chemical called Cortisol is one of the major factors in the way you're feeling.

It's a naturally occurring chemical in the brain, that's released as part of the waking process.

It's also released when you're frightened or anxious too - hence why a lot of anxiety sufferers also have mad downers too.

In a nutshell, ale is a depressant and buggers up the balanced release of Cortisol -hence the anxiety and downer the morning after.

The only way to avoid the downer, is to moderate your drinking or stop altogether.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

* have a look at CORTISOL to get a handle on it.

I've suffered intermittently with anxiety for a few years now. I have a thyroid condition that I think impacts on this. I notice that after an anxiety attack I usually have a few days of what I guess is depression - can't function, can't make decisions, avoid socialising, feel flat etc. Interesting reading your comments about Cortisol, had no idea why I felt like this so thanks.

When I feel anxious or down I make a point not to drink at all, it just exacerbates the problem. I'll use benzos if I'm really worked up, like when I get on a long haul flight, but I wouldn't dream of using them regularly, they're rather moreish.

Can't handle big drinking sessions these days at my age (44), which is probably for the best. Getting old sucks but it's better than the alternative.

 

[The Blue Watch]

Mate, it's perfectly normal. I find that drinking more snaps you out of it

Edit: [Poor language removed], is this a serious thread? Don't follow my advice then maybe

 

[Elong]

Been like this today. And it's normal for loads as you get older. Not that it happens every time like.

The key is recognising and moderation to prevent it. Happens more often for me man. Is it only a recent thing for you? Spirits make it worse for me so I stick to beer as much as I can.

Middle age hits most of us. Up the two day hangovers. Long time since weekends right on it and work on Monday off not much sleep. Time has come for daytime drinking with kebab and bus home before town gets busy. I make involuntary sounds when I bend down too.

 

[Prevenger17]

It isn't a game changer, but drinking bottles might be worth trying. I found that I was just trying to keep pace with lads of a better constitution than me. Now I drink one bottle for every one of their pints and I'm in much better condition by the end of the night and in the morning. Haven't had a hangover in months.