2020/21 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

[Blunatic]

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Before knee jerk criticising him look at this site for player comparisons.

Some rudimentary research shows that he's 23rd in the league for most shots yet 2nd for most shots on target, not bad considering some of the mind boggling criticism he's had on here, he also has 7th best conversion rate etc etc he's still been great lets not let 2 (because that's all it is really 2 games that he's missed a few chances) below par games define his season.

 

[degsy]

...He is worth so much more to us than any fee we could get for him, and to find anyone to replace him would cost an absolute fortune.

If he was called Dominho or Domingo, a Euro team would show you a clip of this season's goals and some assists and say £50M or gtf.
If he regularly slotted one on one's with the keeper or curled them in the top corner from the corner of the box - they'd say £60M or gtf
If he was doing all of what he does now, plus both the above - they'd say £75M or gtf.
Then before Mosh could write the check a real big monied club would just go all in with £100M

We paid £3M.(?)

Up to now he's improved every season, he will not become a 'natural', you can't coach that, you can learn the % ball though.
Oh and better service to his strengths - which means more better players behind him.
But thats for another thread; we knew that was a weak area even after Allen, Doucoure and Rodriguez came in

 

[Vic Vinegar]

He’s improved a lot but his one on one finishing is still undoubtedly poor.

The comparisons to Kane were ludicrous.

 

[Martin Alvito]

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Before knee jerk criticising him look at this site for player comparisons.

Some rudimentary research shows that he's 23rd in the league for most shots yet 2nd for most shots on target, not bad considering some of the mind boggling criticism he's had on here, he also has 7th best conversion rate etc etc he's still been great lets not let 2 (because that's all it is really 2 games that he's missed a few chances) below par games define his season.

He has a history of bad misses, and I think that colors individuals' judgment when he has a poor game. It's hard not to let that history affect evaluations, and frequently requires conscious effort.

People also tend to forget or not see all of, say, Messi's bad misses. We're living in a world where game highlights often show only the goals and it's dead easy to pull up an edited highlight reel of him burying 50 insane goals in a row.

 

[Lanolin]

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Before knee jerk criticising him look at this site for player comparisons.

Some rudimentary research shows that he's 23rd in the league for most shots yet 2nd for most shots on target, not bad considering some of the mind boggling criticism he's had on here, he also has 7th best conversion rate etc etc he's still been great lets not let 2 (because that's all it is really 2 games that he's missed a few chances) below par games define his season.

I don’t want to dig him out here because I’m perfectly happy with him in general, but I’m not sure the shots on target thing is quite the positive you paint it as. The 2 chances he had on Monday were shots on target, but they were really poor finishes truth be told. I think DCL tends to look to hit the target, whereas some strikers will look to hit the corner. If you’re aiming for the corner you’re more likely to miss the target, but also more likely to score. Anecdotally, I would say he’s also less likely to take on ‘difficult’ shots than many strikers, which may also make a difference. Again, that’s not said to criticise him, just that I don’t think that stat really does anything to refute what people are saying.

 

[Terrarian]

Between Richy and Dom up front seems a really good blend of attributes. It should be working but bar one of those games the other night, the service has been gash unless James is on the pitch. That is why those misses and all misses stand out more because we are reliant on them converting the few chances we create.

The midfield need to start chipping in as well but there isn't a goalscorer between them,(CMs)

 

[Martin Alvito]

Between Richy and Dom up front seems a really good blend of attributes. It should be working but bar one of those games the other night, the service has been gash unless James is on the pitch. That is why those misses and all misses stand out more because we are reliant on them converting the few chances we create.

The midfield need to start chipping in as well but there isn't a goalscorer between them,(CMs)

We've rarely had them both play well together at the same time up top. DCL tends not to be at his best in a two man front, and Richarlison tends not to contribute much to the scoring out wide in a three man front.

If DCL figures out how to finish consistently when he's not dead center in the formation, we are in business in a very big way.

 

[wandyr79]

Monday was certainly not one of his better days.

Generally, if he is not scoring you can 100% rely on his work rate but the Place game even he was off it with regards to that as well. On another day Richarlison and/or Calvert-Lewin would have slotted at least one of their chances.

Their is definitely a flaw in Calver-Lewins game and that is one on ones or less instinctive finishes, I don't necessarily see him as a player that will naturally glide past a keeper to put it into an empty net so something has to give, either he works very hard on that or makes a tweek to his game when in that clutch position.

What I do find is that some people are way too quick to give him dogs abuse, call him names and go over the top with the negativity. Us sane logical fans who see common sense (and are adults) have to live with that and simply try and debate the negatives along with the positives. There are no doubt positives to his game and I fail to see how anybody can not see that.

He is going through a rough patch at the moment, he seems like a lad who wants to make it work and will work hard at getting it right. Patience is the key as I honestly believe that he has all the attributes to get better.

Also, some fans seem to disregard tap ins as a skill and use that as a negative. Personally, I just don't understand how you can use the main objective and succeeding in achieving that objective as a negative.

Last note, specifically on the game. The keeper did extremely well for all his saves, credit has to go to him along with faulting Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin. Even in the build up to the goal he made a top class save from Sigurdsson.

 

[Lanolin]

Between Richy and Dom up front seems a really good blend of attributes. It should be working but bar one of those games the other night, the service has been gash unless James is on the pitch. That is why those misses and all misses stand out more because we are reliant on them converting the few chances we create.

The midfield need to start chipping in as well but there isn't a goalscorer between them,(CMs)

I've never thought they've made a particularly good partnership. It's weird because like you say, theoretically they could do, but they just don't seem to gel as a pair. There was a run last year before lockdown where they scored a bucketload of goals between them, but they were almost never involved in eachother's goals.

 

[Terrarian]

I've never thought they've made a particularly good partnership. It's weird because like you say, theoretically they could do, but they just don't seem to gel as a pair. There was a run last year before lockdown where they scored a bucketload of goals between them, but they were almost never involved in eachother's goals.

yeah in atwo, doesn't seem to be a lot of chemistry which given they have totally different attributes is a bit strange.

 

[Dixie1sixty]

The lad has improved exponentially every season and is currently going through a rough patch.

Why do some on here find that so difficult to accept?

Oh and you aren't getting better than him without spending silly money so suck it up and get behind the lad.

 

[Blunatic]

I don’t want to dig him out here because I’m perfectly happy with him in general, but I’m not sure the shots on target thing is quite the positive you paint it as. The 2 chances he had on Monday were shots on target, but they were really poor finishes truth be told. I think DCL tends to look to hit the target, whereas some strikers will look to hit the corner. If you’re aiming for the corner you’re more likely to miss the target, but also more likely to score. Anecdotally, I would say he’s also less likely to take on ‘difficult’ shots than many strikers, which may also make a difference. Again, that’s not said to criticise him, just that I don’t think that stat really does anything to refute what people are saying.

I get what you're saying and your points well balanced are valid.

Where I disagree is I believe these stats do refute the unfair criticisms of Dom. As you point out shots on target stats may not silence the haters but a quick look into the stats for conversion rates and xg (both of which prove his efficiency) certainly can.

Where he's suffering is the chances he has missed have been of the same type, 1 on 1s. Its not like he's missed loads but people tend to remember them more than say a good headed chance and so some of our fans think he can't finish.

 

[Carlito]

I've never thought they've made a particularly good partnership. It's weird because like you say, theoretically they could do, but they just don't seem to gel as a pair. There was a run last year before lockdown where they scored a bucketload of goals between them, but they were almost never involved in eachother's goals.

I still don't see Richarlison as a striker, at least not in this league anyway.

To me, you want him coming in off the wing and attacking space. He doesn't really have the attributes to being going toe-to-toe with quality defenders.

I also think that you get the most out of Calvert-Lewin when he's got two wide players roaming in between the lines, pulling defenders out of position and creating space for him in the box.

 

[Joey66]

 

[Nymzee]

Where are you.