I dont agree with personal abuse of players btw
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I dont agree with personal abuse of players btw
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The fact you think how much he earns is relevant to being harassed and abused shows how little you are aware of your actions mate.So calling a player crap is personal abuse?
Mate I get worse for posting on GOT for free - sign me up for 100k a week for someone to call me crap you can kick me in the gonads every hour of every day for 100k a week!
So the only form of support is abuse? That's all the players respond to?
The fact you think how much he earns is relevant to being harassed and abused shows how little you are aware of your actions mate.
I mean, that's literally the definition of abuse.Calling a player, useless, cowardly, crap if said player on tens of thousands of pounds a week isn't doing their job to the detriment of the team isn't abuse in my eyes.
I still would like to know how his wages are relevant, you're not the only person to give him grief like, him and Tommy D have been given loads of crap the last few season due to things off the football field as well.Well if calling a player crap is personal abuse then you may aswell shut every football stadium and forum down in the world.
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This is dangerously close to the logic of someone I called out in real life. The logic went "the player earns thousands, why on earth are they moaning if someone says something about skin colour or shouts abuse at them. The amount fans pay to watch they can say what they like".Again im not supporting abuse of players.
Your definition of "abuse" is very different to me. Calling a player, useless, cowardly, crap if said player on tens of thousands of pounds a week isn't doing their job to the detriment of the team isn't abuse in my eyes and I guarantee all the saints on here have said much worse at the grounds over the last 30-40 years hell they say much worse in the Pickford, Iwobi, Siggurdsson and Gomes threads on here its just those players aint much good so the "abuse" is fair game apparently.
Again im not supporting abuse of players.
Your definition of "abuse" is very different to me. Calling a player, useless, cowardly, crap if said player on tens of thousands of pounds a week isn't doing their job to the detriment of the team isn't abuse in my eyes and I guarantee all the saints on here have said much worse at the grounds over the last 30-40 years hell they say much worse in the Pickford, Iwobi, Siggurdsson and Gomes threads on here its just those players aint much good so the "abuse" is fair game apparently.
The problem is mate is circumstance - we couldn't afford to give DCL a few years to keep scoring 5 goals a season as Evertons no1 when we were in mid table looking over our shoulder at the relegation spots. With Kean its a different as DCL is now matured and we also now have potentially King whereas 2 seasons ago it was a wet behind the ears DCL or Toshun/Niasse who you may as well have you or me on the bench!
Ultimately I can only judge from what Im seeing on the pitch at the time which was DCL wasn't at that time good enough for Everton both in terms of output and just ability - I know you mention his aerial prescence etc but even then they were nowhere near the standard they are now - the only thing I couldn't fault him on was work rate which was great but ultimately that wasn't enough at that period of time.
I was happy signing Kean last summer but I always said ideally we needed a Giroud/Dzeko type coming in as well as it made no sense having 2 work in progresses in DCL/Kean without an experienced player to take the pressure away from them.
I just think with DCL people rewrite history whereas for example I've seen people who have always backed DCL slate Kean and call him crap when Keans younger than what DCL was 2 seasons ago!! But if Kean comes back next season and scores 15 goals I wont hold them to that opinion as they can only ultimately judge him on what they have seen in an Everton shirt to date.
A comparison between Solanke, Brewster, Lookman, Armstrong, Chapman, Abraham, Nmecha, Nketiah might be warranted though. All in and around the U21s from 2017-20....ah ok, attacking midfielder. Poor comparison from me.