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2024/25 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Well I'm not sure he is a 5 goal striker. When he's got he tends to score between 7-16 goals. But yes from our track record they find difficulty finding such strikers, especially who can offer what he does in terms of his all round game.

That's basically the exact point I'm making. It's clearly not that easy. As 3 DOF have found.


He doesn't tend to score 7-16 goals. He's only ever scored more than 10 goals in 2 seasons. He averages 7 goals a season.
 
He doesn't tend to score 7-16 goals. He's only ever scored more than 10 goals in 2 seasons. He averages 7 goals a season.
7-10 a season would be fine in a partnership with a more prolific scorer or spread across a front three also chipping in similar numbers.

I said ages ago I thought Dom would be a good 'foil' in a partnership - gets fewer goals but creates space etc, before he suddenly really started knocking in goals under Dunc and Ancelotti. I thought he'd matured into a goalscorer.

That's clearly not the case, but I still think being part of an actual frontline would benefit all involved. It's that utterly depressing 1 up top trying to do it all that really doesn't help us at all.

Need more goals throughout the team in truth.
 
He has a lot of sub appearances in there. More than a lot of players to be fair.
None of them come close to the ratio of starts to appearances he has, the amount total doesn't matter. He's started 75% of all the matches he was in the squad for an the next closest was Tosun at 50%. He's consistently been favoured with opportunities to start.

Half of that list were wingers. It is really scraping the barrel to make an argument for Dom to have Gordon, Gray and Walcott in there. They hardly have a handful of appearances up top as strikers between them.

Kean, Tosun, Rondon, Beto, Chermiti and Sandro are the only ones to consider. He's started more than all of them.
 
Well I'm not sure he is a 5 goal striker. When he's got he tends to score between 7-16 goals. But yes from our track record they find difficulty finding such strikers, especially who can offer what he does in terms of his all round game.

That's basically the exact point I'm making. It's clearly not that easy. As 3 DOF have found.
How many times has he scored between 7-16 league goals catcher?

"Tends to" is an interesting phrasing when it happens less often than not.
 

Again this seems to avoid the elephant in the room that virtually every other PL team have found a better forward than DCL

I mean that's somewhat subjective.

Every other team create a lot more chances than us. I'm not wholly convinced every team have a striker who gives us what DCL does. Lots of strikers don't score say 8 goals, in teams that create more chances.
 
None of them come close to the ratio of starts to appearances he has, the amount total doesn't matter. He's started 75% of all the matches he was in the squad for an the next closest was Tosun at 50%. He's consistently been favoured with opportunities to start.

Half of that list were wingers. It is really scraping the barrel to make an argument for Dom to have Gordon, Gray and Walcott in there. They hardly have a handful of appearances up top as strikers between them.

Kean, Tosun, Rondon, Beto, Chermiti and Sandro are the only ones to consider. He's started more than all of them.

I mean, you seem to be making lots of excuses. None of those other strikers score goals either.

That's the point. We don't create chances for our forward players. I'm baffled people think it's a DCL problem, not an Everton problem.
 

I mean, you seem to be making lots of excuses. None of those other strikers score goals either.

That's the point. We don't create chances for our forward players. I'm baffled people think it's a DCL problem, not an Everton problem.
No I'm just pointing out that unlike those other strikers he's continued to be given opportunities when we cut our losses on the others.

I'm baffled people consider a striker who has only scored 7 or more league goals 3 times in his entire career and with only 2 goals to his name halfway through the season to be anything other than not good enough.
 
No I'm just pointing out that unlike those other strikers he's continued to be given opportunities when we cut our losses on the others.

I'm baffled people consider a striker who has only scored 7 or more league goals 3 times in his entire career and with only 2 goals to his name halfway through the season to be anything other than not good enough.

I think you're making a different argument to the one I'm making mate.

Mine is that that evidence would show to us, that almost every alternative has been worse at scoring goals.
 
I think you're making a different argument to the one I'm making mate.

Mine is that that evidence would show to us, that almost every alternative has been worse at scoring goals.
Alternatively the evidence shows finding back ups to DCL hasn't helped, with the answer being a replacement for DCL was needed.
None of those signings were a direct challenge to DCL.
 
Alternatively the evidence shows finding back ups to DCL hasn't helped, with the answer being a replacement for DCL was needed.
None of those signings were a direct challenge to DCL.

Well I think a lot of them were signed as first choice.

The issue isn't whether first choice or back up, it's that we have found it hard to find goal scoring attackers.
 

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