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Dominic Calvert-Lewin

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ilikecheese said:
I think Brownz is saying that some players look lazier than others.
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Brownie is implying - and I agree - that he's a jack of all trades and master of none, hence the Wellbeck comparison (although harsh on Wellbeck who is a very decent forward).
 
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He's a very lucky boy.
 

“He deserved to start matches last season and he is progressing well, but he needs to progress more because he is still only 20 years old,” Koeman said. "He’s physically strong, which makes him a little bit different than the likes of [Tom] Davies and some of our other young players. He can play in different positions up front. He’s really improving in his movement and finishing, and that makes him a first-team player. But he’s a good boy who is serious and has a phenomenal attitude, which is what we like.”


Seriously, you read that appraisal and you know this feller hasn't got a clue about forwards.

He had Guedetti at Feyenoord, Pelle and Long at Southampton, and now he's lumbered us with a load of attacking players who are second rate.
 
davek said:
“He deserved to start matches last season and he is progressing well, but he needs to progress more because he is still only 20 years old,” Koeman said. "He’s physically strong, which makes him a little bit different than the likes of [Tom] Davies and some of our other young players. He can play in different positions up front. He’s really improving in his movement and finishing, and that makes him a first-team player. But he’s a good boy who is serious and has a phenomenal attitude, which is what we like.”


Seriously, you read that appraisal and you know this feller hasn't got a clue about forwards.

He had Guedetti at Feyenoord, Pelle and Long at Southampton, and now he's lumbered us with a load of attacking players who are second rate.
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Yea mate its a disgrace. He even released Arouna Koné. Joke.
 
davek said:
“He deserved to start matches last season and he is progressing well, but he needs to progress more because he is still only 20 years old,” Koeman said. "He’s physically strong, which makes him a little bit different than the likes of [Tom] Davies and some of our other young players. He can play in different positions up front. He’s really improving in his movement and finishing, and that makes him a first-team player. But he’s a good boy who is serious and has a phenomenal attitude, which is what we like.”


Seriously, you read that appraisal and you know this feller hasn't got a clue about forwards.

He had Guedetti at Feyenoord, Pelle and Long at Southampton, and now he's lumbered us with a load of attacking players who are second rate.
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The man who plated alongside Van Basten, Romario and Stoichkov hasn't a clue about strikers??

Loooooool
 

davek said:
“He deserved to start matches last season and he is progressing well, but he needs to progress more because he is still only 20 years old,” Koeman said. "He’s physically strong, which makes him a little bit different than the likes of [Tom] Davies and some of our other young players. He can play in different positions up front. He’s really improving in his movement and finishing, and that makes him a first-team player. But he’s a good boy who is serious and has a phenomenal attitude, which is what we like.”


Seriously, you read that appraisal and you know this feller hasn't got a clue about forwards.

He had Guedetti at Feyenoord, Pelle and Long at Southampton, and now he's lumbered us with a load of attacking players who are second rate.
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Think you should give the lad a chance mate.
Scored a winner in a World Cup final too.
Just ease off a bit and see how he progresses.
Oh and kudos for giving Koeman another beating in another different thread, you're creativity deservedly needs applauding.
 
davek said:
“He deserved to start matches last season and he is progressing well, but he needs to progress more because he is still only 20 years old,” Koeman said. "He’s physically strong, which makes him a little bit different than the likes of [Tom] Davies and some of our other young players. He can play in different positions up front. He’s really improving in his movement and finishing, and that makes him a first-team player. But he’s a good boy who is serious and has a phenomenal attitude, which is what we like.”


Seriously, you read that appraisal and you know this feller hasn't got a clue about forwards.

He had Guedetti at Feyenoord, Pelle and Long at Southampton, and now he's lumbered us with a load of attacking players who are second rate.
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And you know better? Unless of course you've played alongside some of the best forwards ever. Trust me mate, he knows football better than you and everyone else on this forum.
 
davek said:
“He deserved to start matches last season and he is progressing well, but he needs to progress more because he is still only 20 years old,” Koeman said. "He’s physically strong, which makes him a little bit different than the likes of [Tom] Davies and some of our other young players. He can play in different positions up front. He’s really improving in his movement and finishing, and that makes him a first-team player. But he’s a good boy who is serious and has a phenomenal attitude, which is what we like.”


Seriously, you read that appraisal and you know this feller hasn't got a clue about forwards.

He had Guedetti at Feyenoord, Pelle and Long at Southampton, and now he's lumbered us with a load of attacking players who are second rate.
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Kone and Niasse are about sixth rate. You must rate them.
 
I'm glad to hear this because there were rumours of a loan move for him and talk of bringing in Andre Gray at the same time...nice to know RK is throwing the challenge down to him
 
davek said:
“He deserved to start matches last season and he is progressing well, but he needs to progress more because he is still only 20 years old,” Koeman said. "He’s physically strong, which makes him a little bit different than the likes of [Tom] Davies and some of our other young players. He can play in different positions up front. He’s really improving in his movement and finishing, and that makes him a first-team player. But he’s a good boy who is serious and has a phenomenal attitude, which is what we like.”


Seriously, you read that appraisal and you know this feller hasn't got a clue about forwards.

He had Guedetti at Feyenoord, Pelle and Long at Southampton, and now he's lumbered us with a load of attacking players who are second rate.
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First of all, off the bat, I think you often get a lot of unjust stick for your opinions, which are usually dismissed because they are yours before any real consideration has gone into what you have said.

Then there are other times when you clearly say things that are deliberately provocative to stir the pot.

This seems like 1 of them.

We signed him for a small fee to join Usworth development squad and he must have impressed and progressed enough to be given some time in the 1st team. He is by no means the finished article, but he came into the team and didn't let anyone down, always gave his all and often while being played out of position. He has also proven this summer with u20s to be an often influential player and got a few goals and assists, including the winner in the final.

You state often enough that Dowell, amongst other young players, should be included, but then criticise his inclusion, which I don't understand.

And to emphasise your point, you use a quote that clearly state the qualities he has that give him cause to be included, non of which I would say was hyperbole, and then say it proves he knows nothing about forwards.

Comparing players he's used in other teams in the past proves absolutely nothing. Alex Ferguson signed Cruyff, Bellion, Obertan... even Forlan was a laughing stock until he moved to Spain, and many other players over the years, in different positions who many have criticised time and time again. Nobody gets it right every time, so it's just petty to highlight players who you personally don't rate as proof of some deficiency.

You picked out Pelle and Long and I'm not sure why, as I think they have both been effective, but failed to mention Tadic and Mane.

But the bit I really don't get is this "lumbered us with a load of attacking players who are second rate" statement? Who are all these players?

Aside from the 20 year old prospect he never signed that is.
 

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