Donald Trump for President Thread

[kithnou]

I am not bothered to watch the congressional hearings about Bengazi and emails.

Just wonder how a rational and intelligent person can hate someone they don't know. Thats all Finners. Carry on.

Donald will be happy to hear of your respect for him mate

 

[Blue 1]

I hear it was a convincing victory for Trump, look forward to watching the highlights later

Breitbart, yeah?

 

[kithnou]

I hear it was a convincing victory for Trump, look forward to watching the highlights later

Overwhelming. Undeniable. Credit to him, everyone expected a political execution but he left the debate swinging, leaving Hillary with a few beautiful stings throughout the night.
Enjoy the highlights

 

[Prevenger17]

Overwhelming. Undeniable. Credit to him, everyone expected a political execution but he left the debate swinging, leaving Hillary with a few beautiful stings throughout the night.

The time for presidents is over. America needs a callmaker who gets deals done

 

[tsubaki]

I am not bothered to watch the congressional hearings about Bengazi and emails.

Just wonder how a rational and intelligent person can hate someone they don't know. Thats all Finners. Carry on.

Hate is perhaps too strong a word - but there is a load of evidence to suggest that, actually, she isn't very good. Take her time as Secretary of State for instance, when she was wrong over Libyan intervention, deeply wrong over Benghazi, wrong over Iran and sanctions, wrong over the Arab Spring and kicked off the support of the anti-Assad rebels who have helped to turn Syria into such a popular spot for one's holidays. Or look at her performance as Senator, when she managed to be wrong in supporting the invasion of Iraq and managed to be wrong in opposing the surge that briefly improved things in that country (and probably would have done much to prevent what followed, had Maliki not messed it up).

The contrast with John Kerry, who has spent much of his time as Secretary of State putting out fires that she helped start, is staggering. If the Republican Party hadn't painted itself into such a corner (over its family values / anti-immigrant / anti-science / pro-fossil fuels / pro money / anti-reality policies) that Trump genuinely was the least crazy one of the candidates, she would have no chance.

 

[kithnou]

The time for presidents is over. America needs a callmaker who gets deals done

Whom would you recommend my good man?

 

[Prevenger17]

Whom would you recommend my good man?

The Don of course. I reckon he could build a wall that even Liverpool fans couldn't push over.

 

[kithnou]

The Don of course. I reckon he could build a wall that even Liverpool fans couldn't push over.

A bigly wall at that

 

[MartyMcFly]

Breitbart, yeah?

Actually CNBC have save said he won the focus groups and they're very anti-trump. That's low expectations.

But it's interesting that Hillary doubled down on immigration and diversity. She started getting over confident and let her guard drop. It was clear what she really has in mind.

If Americans don't vote for Trump they will never the chance to vote right wing again due to demographics and the crony/capitalist of America will be complete.

That will be the end of the US. In 20 years they'll just be another failed super power as their economy will collapse.

Scary.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Hate is perhaps too strong a word - but there is a load of evidence to suggest that, actually, she isn't very good. Take her time as Secretary of State for instance, when she was wrong over Libyan intervention, deeply wrong over Benghazi, wrong over Iran and sanctions, wrong over the Arab Spring and kicked off the support of the anti-Assad rebels who have helped to turn Syria into such a popular spot for one's holidays. Or look at her performance as Senator, when she managed to be wrong in supporting the invasion of Iraq and managed to be wrong in opposing the surge that briefly improved things in that country (and probably would have done much to prevent what followed, had Maliki not messed it up).

The contrast with John Kerry, who has spent much of his time as Secretary of State putting out fires that she helped start, is staggering. If the Republican Party hadn't painted itself into such a corner (over its family values / anti-immigrant / anti-science / pro-fossil fuels / pro money / anti-reality policies) that Trump genuinely was the least crazy one of the candidates, she would have no chance.

I know. She's useless and not only that just as dangerous as Trump in other ways.

 

[Prevenger17]

But it's interesting that Hillary doubled down on immigration and diversity. She started getting over confident and let her guard drop. It was clear what she really has in mind.

I don't know, there's still another debate, and I think it's an established strategy to pull your punches in the middle debate. Obama did it 4 years ago against Romney IIRC and absolutely destroyed him in the 3rd. It's the one that's freshest in people's memory when they go to the booths.

If Americans don't vote for Trump they will never the chance to vote right wing again due to demographics and the crony/capitalist of America will be complete.

That's genuinely my thinking. Trump is a massive balloon, but people should vote him in and show the two parties how willing they are to turn to chaos unless a transparent, equitable system is put into place. Always darkest before the dawn and all that

 

[Blue 1]

Actually CNBC have save said he won the focus groups and they're very anti-trump. That's low expectations.

But it's interesting that Hillary doubled down on immigration and diversity. She started getting over confident and let her guard drop. It was clear what she really has in mind.

If Americans don't vote for Trump they will never the chance to vote right wing again due to demographics and the crony/capitalist of America will be complete.

That will be the end of the US. In 20 years they'll just be another failed super power as their economy will collapse.

Scary.

Wow. Mental.

The whole thing was a debacle.

 

[Blue 1]

That's genuinely my thinking. Trump is a massive balloon, but people should vote him in and show the two parties how willing they are to turn to chaos unless a transparent, equitable system is put into place. Always darkest before the dawn and all that

I can kinda see that line of thinking but the thought of him, with a republican controlled house and senate getting the chance to install up to three hardline conservative Supreme Court Justices is too high a price and will damage America irreparably.

 

[tsubaki]

Actually CNBC have save said he won the focus groups and they're very anti-trump. That's low expectations.

But it's interesting that Hillary doubled down on immigration and diversity. She started getting over confident and let her guard drop. It was clear what she really has in mind.

If Americans don't vote for Trump they will never the chance to vote right wing again due to demographics and the crony/capitalist of America will be complete.

That will be the end of the US. In 20 years they'll just be another failed super power as their economy will collapse.

Scary.

You would hope that the right would take this defeat (if it happens) and have a complete rethink of what it is they are doing. At the moment, they are a coalition of views - religious liberty*, neo-conservatism, fiscal conservatism - of which only the first two matter, despite the fact that as theories they are excrement and the country was actually built on the third. If they switch to a genuine fiscal conservatism, combined with an acceptance that there are some functions that the State actually is in the best position to provide (especially healthcare, where the federally-funded medicaid / medicare programme is basically a massive scam**), then they will probably be back quite quickly. To do that though they will have to purge almost all of their current leadership.

* which of course means the liberty to tell other people how to behave
** the cost per capita for just those two programmes (not counting the cost of the actual private health system) is quite a bit more than the cost per capita of the entire NHS

 

[tsubaki]

I can kinda see that line of thinking but the thought of him, with a republican controlled house and senate getting the chance to install up to three hardline conservative Supreme Court Justices is too high a price and will damage America irreparably.

If Trump wins he would probably face more problems with Congress than Clinton would.