davek said:
It would make more sense as an explanation than we've heard so far mate.
Maybe he'd have been a great option off the bench; maybe he'd have done nothing off the bench. It should have been an option.
That was a bigger misdemeanour and a bigger problem for us than some tit turning up late for the last training session at FF.
I for one wont forget this decision by Moyes. He has no idea of the importance of these fixtures and that winning them is everything. If he did, he wouldn't have sacrificed our options on the bonfire of his own vanity. Before this I'd have waved Moyes off when he went with a thanks for his earlier work at the club. Now I just want to see the back of him, his enormous ego and the chronic lack of judgement that goes hand in hand with it.
..and while we're at it: I expect more from an Everton manager after a big loss than to simply point the finger at a couple of players to explain that loss away and to hide his own frailities behind. I've seen enough of this feller to know he's a coward at heart.
I'm still with Davek in most of this.
Bad timing. Moyes may have had the right principle but he should have used Drenthe the way Drenthe has used the Club, one last time. He probably thought that he could 'show' Drenthe that he wasn't indespensable and it backfired. That's Moyes' ego getting in the way of his judgement, as it seems to have done with other players who have made unexpected exits from the Club. There is no reason in my mind why Drenthe wouldn't have turned up once on the pitch because he's given 100% every time i've watched him, but his detractors on here won't see this. Then after the match (i.e. today): Shoot him down in flames,
get rid him. It may have been difficult to explain to the fans, especially if he'd scored the match winner, but if the Club were transparent - something they don't seem able to grasp under the current Board - the fans would understand. Sure, we'd then have missed him in the Final too, but there would have been sufficient time to prepare, and win or lose it the RS would have been denied their place. It's too late now anyway, whatever side you take on this the damage has been done and we need to move on. Imo Drenthe could have turned the game, he is that good (on the pitch), regardless of what others think, but it's a sad state of affairs as i've previously said when we need to rely on one player to do this. Our team needs this sort of quality right across the park.
I just want to know the exact details of what happened. For all we know Moyes could just be being a bad tit...i doubt it though. With Drenthe's history, and Moyes' reluctance to deal with players with his attitude, I'm really surprised Moyes bought him to us in the first place. He should have prepared himself for this to happen, but it looks like he didn't. I'm blaming both Moyes and Drenthe. Drenthe for (allegedly) acting like a child, and Moyes for not managing him better. I would do what Mancini does when Balotelli acts like a child and go to the media and point out exactly what a **** he is...
It's what happens when you leave your transfer dealings until the last minutes of the transfer window: you get
desperate. Moyes seems incapable of learning from his mistakes, and this is another one to add to the list. The massive gamble worked with Fellaini, but with others it has failed miserably. Will we do our deals early in the next window as Matt hopes? I doubt it.
At the end of the day most of us on here are agreed on one thing: that Drenthe has been a massive tit and not worthy of the shirt. The main disagreement is in how Moyes handled it all. One way or another it seems that Drenthe is now history, and assuming all the accusations levelled at him on here are true then i will add to the voices who say
goodbye, and good riddance. In fact, i sure hope that he
is history, because if Moyes ever plays him again he will have massively weakened his argument for dropping him before the semi final and i will probably lose all respect for him.
