little curly alan ball
Player Valuation: £70m
Ok, cheers LCAB, an inaccurate use of words, and have edited my later post to 'get rid'.
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IMO the minute it bacame clear that Jones was to be their goalkeeper, Drenthe should have been the first name on the teamsheet.
He fires them in from all angles and would have given Jones a proper test.
Sometimes a manager has to forget about "discipline" to achieve a certain aim.
Rafael had no hesitation in playing Bellamy at Barcelona a few days after hw ****ted one of hys own teammates with a golf club.
And Bellamy scored in that match.
Now that we know the "family problem" story was a lie, it is my opinion that Drenthe should have been playing from the getgo.
He fires them in from all angles and would have given Jones a proper test.
Sometimes a manager has to forget about "discipline" to achieve a certain aim.
Rafael had no hesitation in playing Bellamy at Barcelona a few days after hw ****ted one of hys own teammates with a golf club.
And Bellamy scored in that match.
Now that we know the "family problem" story was a lie, it is my opinion that Drenthe should have been playing from the getgo.
Excellent point about Jones being their keeper. We didn't even test his nerves. So disappointing!!
Get_Jo_On
Player Valuation: £950k
Oh just to quote LCAB -
Why you're questioning Moyes's ego when someone has chosen to let himself and us down. It was Drenthe's timing, how can you not get that? Nothing Moyes did backfired, Drenthe was acting like his was indespensable and it backfired, that wasn't Moyes decision. He just treated him exactly like if it was anyone else.
I can understand both sides of this argument but for me it comes down to who retaining control and respect in the locker room.
In any workplace if you have an employee who continually breaks rules despite being given chance after chance then there comes a point when the foot has to be put down, regardless of the circumstances or effect it may have on the rest of the workforce.
I work in a restaurant, and if i was in the kitchen taking the pi55 continually despite being told not to then regardless of whether there were 5 or 25 tables on the books for the night the manager would be perfectly justified, and expected, to deal with me appropriately.
Yes Drenthe being left out of the squad left us lacking that explosiveness off the bench, but one has to look at the bigger picture. If Drenthe had been allowed to feature on Saturday after having breached club rules AGAIN, then it hands all the power to him, as he knows that the club is more dependent on him than he is on them. Of course they could have dealt with him after the match took place, but then you need to look at the other players in the locker room, how would they feel at this lad being let off the chain again and again ?
Moyes was stuck between a rock and a hard place here, but for me he took the difficult and correct decision to show him the door.
In any workplace if you have an employee who continually breaks rules despite being given chance after chance then there comes a point when the foot has to be put down, regardless of the circumstances or effect it may have on the rest of the workforce.
I work in a restaurant, and if i was in the kitchen taking the pi55 continually despite being told not to then regardless of whether there were 5 or 25 tables on the books for the night the manager would be perfectly justified, and expected, to deal with me appropriately.
Yes Drenthe being left out of the squad left us lacking that explosiveness off the bench, but one has to look at the bigger picture. If Drenthe had been allowed to feature on Saturday after having breached club rules AGAIN, then it hands all the power to him, as he knows that the club is more dependent on him than he is on them. Of course they could have dealt with him after the match took place, but then you need to look at the other players in the locker room, how would they feel at this lad being let off the chain again and again ?
Moyes was stuck between a rock and a hard place here, but for me he took the difficult and correct decision to show him the door.
njligernj
Player Valuation: £15m
If Everton announce interest in a player (or let it get leaked before it's final) it's "why is our club so bad at keeping secrets? why can't we keep things under wraps until they are ready to sign." Then when things are kept under wraps all of a sudden it's because they only just thought of buying that person at the last minute out of a desperation gamble. They may have turned their attention to Fellaini at a late date because other deals fell through or the money was finally freed up but I doubt they were buying a player sight unseen.
Wasn't he 15 million euros ... not the oft reported pounds?
Regardless ... we have no money so we don't want to pay wages over the summer. We have no money so we're waiting to sell players and then we know our budget. We have no money so we're waiting for the new money to come in. We have no money so we're negotiating like crazy trying to beat teams down and down and down until we get the possible price. It's desperation of sorts but not a desperation born of Moyes "not learning from his mistakes" but Moyes being handcuffed by our precarious financial position. Nobody at the club, even BK, is unaware that it's not the optimum way to go about your business but they have no other choice.
Will we do our deals early this year? I doubt it. Maybe Pienaar if that's going to happen. Not because Moyes hasn't learned (he knows it's horrible) but because we can't buy players without money and the money takes a while to come in.
As for Drenthe, pretty much the one thing we have going for us is squad harmony. Is talent more important? See Man United v. Man City and their relative league position.
little curly alan ball
Player Valuation: £70m
Pienaar WILL happen .
An Landy looks likely too , Please God ... Still early tho ...
zed
Player Valuation: £25m
first thing in my head when their goalie problem surfaced `RR is gonna kill them at wembley` i heard the kopites were relieved en masse when they heard royston was out. they wouldve relieved themselves laughing when they heard he was left out on purpose
Laughing at the people who say "We should have played him anyway".
He took the piss out of OUR Club, if thats acceptable, well I give up trying to reason with you.
He took the piss out of OUR Club, if thats acceptable, well I give up trying to reason with you.
I'm agreeing with Goat re: Moyes, it must be conclusive close the thread ffs.
I seem to recall a certain Mr. Moyes taking the "piss out of OUR club" at Anfield in March.
And again on Saturday, now you come to mention it.
Its a win at all cost mentality that is a Kopite trait.
We are Everton, we win with pride and dignity or we lose the same way.
We are Everton, we win with pride and dignity or we lose the same way.
He lost a League game by playing an under strength team against a lesser team.
What a joker you are.
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