Duncan Ferguson the coach

[wandyr79]

I do enjoy seeing Everton play and win with good football. That's all there is in football for me...that and seeing Liverpool humiliated.

I just dont accept the kind of club we've become. If you do accept it then that's your choice.

I also just want to see Everton play and win with good football (although I am very content with just the win part). I may agree or disagree with off the pitch stuff but I generally don't let it get to me. These days I basically try and support Everton like I am a kid again, I had no idea about board rooms, backroom staff and stadium deals, etc. back then and I enjoyed being a football fan. Getting worked up about it all is something I dispensed with a long time ago, I suggest you do the same, it is very liberating

 

[Joey66]

Or what we used to say about Shanks only a good coach if you take his teeth out and put seats in...........

 

[Toffeelover]

Mate, I see Everton where we are and compare it with what we've been capable of in the past. To me it's a shambles.

We have a billionaire without billions; a revolving door on the manager's office; we're onto our 5th or 6th stadium scheme and still getting nowhere; we haven't had a trophy in the cabinet for 23 years - a club this size!

Yes, we ARE a shambles.

This a typical stupid remark, many so called rich folk are so based on assets and although they may be describe as millionaires or billionaires it is on paper hardly ever actual cash in the bank.

 

[RobC]

Jeffers, Unsworth, Ebbrell, Ferguson, etc etc. They aren't going to offer us the best we can get. It's jobs for the boys.

I have more respect for people like Davie Weir who went off on his own and at least had a go at management...he was hopeless at it but nevertheless.

I know Phil Jevons well, he is a lovely lad from a good family - no idea if he is a good coach though.

 

[Toffeelover]

I do enjoy seeing Everton play and win with good football. That's all there is in football for me...that and seeing Liverpool humiliated.

I just dont accept the kind of club we've become. If you do accept it then that's your choice.

So if Everton win but not with good football then you do not approve? Exactly what is good football these days?

So like in your other post the club have become a shambles but from when is this back to the Johnson era? What could BK have done with the limited resources the club had and now control has gone to one who is moving things albeit not as quick as one would like but progress is being made.

So if you are all knowing clarify to all on here what could have been done from the Johnson era other wise give it a rest and get a life.

 

[granter79]

I do enjoy seeing Everton play and win with good football. That's all there is in football for me...that and seeing Liverpool humiliated.

I just dont accept the kind of club we've become. If you do accept it then that's your choice.

I don't accept but I cant control it so taking the positives this year.

 

[Sheedy's right knee.]

I do enjoy seeing Everton play and win with good football. That's all there is in football for me...that and seeing Liverpool humiliated.

I just dont accept the kind of club we've become. If you do accept it then that's your choice.

 

[Sheedy's right knee.]

In a contorted type of way Dave I think we are moving in a positive direction. I love Everton as I’m sure you do but on Moshiri I think he is quietly pretty ruthless with his decisions rightly or wrongly which is a completely different sign post to Bill. I personally think we need to have a bit of faith in him.

 

[davek]

In a contorted type of way Dave I think we are moving in a positive direction. I love Everton as I’m sure you do but on Moshiri I think he is quietly pretty ruthless with his decisions rightly or wrongly which is a completely different sign post to Bill. I personally think we need to have a bit of faith in him.

I see the overview like this:

2 1/2 years he's been here - in that time we're onto our 5th manager (if Unsworth is counted); the club's commercial arm is stunted still; the stadium issue has a big question mark over funding and it's in the doldrums; we as a club have lost credibility as an organisation that knows who it is and what it's doing.

In short: he's been an utter disaster.

 

[Toffeelover]

I see the overview like this:

2 1/2 years he's been here - in that time we're onto our 5th manager (if Unsworth is counted); the club's commercial arm is stunted still; the stadium issue has a big question mark over funding and it's in the doldrums; we as a club have lost credibility as an organisation that knows who it is and what it's doing.

In short: he's been an utter disaster.

Rubbish and you know it. See you ignored my previous posts - what's the problem???

 

[Big_Duncs_Fod]

I honestly thought Silva would have replaced him with his own man. He must have been told that Dunc stays. IMO Silva should have cleared the decks and started from scratch.

The previous backroom setups have not worked so why carry some of it on? There's no place for sentiment in football so move him on.

 

[davek]

Rubbish and you know it. See you ignored my previous posts - what's the problem???

There is no probalem. I just disagreed with what you said and how you put it.

Now, to this "point": everything I said about Moshiri's inglorious time here is a fact.

 

[arch stanton]

I honestly thought Silva would have replaced him with his own man. He must have been told that Dunc stays. IMO Silva should have cleared the decks and started from scratch.

The previous backroom setups have not worked so why carry some of it on? There's no place for sentiment in football so move him on.

unless he is actually a decent coach and worth keeping

 

[Big_Duncs_Fod]

unless he is actually a decent coach and worth keeping

Doesn't really come into it as managers have their own team whom they habe worked with for years and when going into a job like to bring their own people in.

Why not just have a complete new approach with no links to previous managememt setups and try something new?

If he is a good coach then fair enough but sometimes changes are needed. I just think that when a new man arrives the decks need to be cleared.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

Doesn't really come into it as managers have their own team whom they habe worked with for years and when going into a job like to bring their own people in.

Why not just have a complete new approach with no links to previous managememt setups and try something new?

If he is a good coach then fair enough but sometimes changes are needed. I just think that when a new man arrives the decks need to be cleared.

Does a complete new broom happen often at serious clubs? Seems quite common to retain a Club Man on the bench for some links to the roots of the club - whether you see Duncan playing that role as a serious voice who people listen to, or more of a mascot to put the cones out, it's not the end of the world.

Silva said recently he needs to work on his own English [relating to Richarlison needing to learn the language] and that he often speaks Portuguese in training, so it seems a bit far-fetched to think he's listening to anything Duncan's saying.