Toast
Player Valuation: £80m
No mate.
I’ve said similar on here the other day.
It’s basic stuff for any event.
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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3
- Thread starter cronullasharks
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I’ve said similar on here the other day.
It’s basic stuff for any event.
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £90m
double checking there sources. only way to be sure.
Toast
Player Valuation: £80m
Timing giving it the slips to avoid queues is an art form.
Especially in the NFL.
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £90m
depends, are they collecting the spoils a la fagan in oliver?
they’re own fans taking selfies with the fake tickets
they’re own manager saying travel
it’s never them tho
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £90m
Uefa are liars mate, Tez and Dabbo from the local swear blind it wasnt any reds making havoc. proper double down sweared like.This is from the Guardian in 2007 after the Athens final. They have always been the same:
Uefa condemns Liverpool fans as 'worst behaved in Europe'
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'What other set of fans steal tickets from their fellow supporters or out of the hands of children?'
Liverpool's fans have been involved in 25 separate disturbances at European away games in the last four years, according to Uefa. Photograph: EPA
Staff and agencies
Mon 4 Jun 2007 08.49 BST
A leaked Uefa report has branded Liverpool's fans the "worst behaved in Europe" as the debate over who was to blame for the ticketing chaos at this year's Champions League final rumbles on.
European football's governing body commissioned undercover police to compile a report into the behaviour of fans four years ago, and their completed report states Liverpool fans has been involved in 25 separate disturbances at European away games since 2003 - more than those of any other club.
Uefa president Michel Platini had already been set to meet sports minister Richard Caborn in Brussels tomorrow to discuss fan violence in Athens, and will now use the report to support his demand that Liverpool impose tighter security checks on fans travelling abroad.
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"The incidents involving Liverpool fans have been well known to us before the trouble at the Champions League final which involved Liverpool fans last week," said Uefa spokesman William Gaillard. "That was just the latest example. What other set of fans steal tickets from their fellow supporters or out of the hands of children?
"We know what happened in Athens, and Liverpool fans were the cause of most of the trouble there. There have been 25 incidents involving Liverpool fans away from home since 2003 and these are in the report - most teams' supporters do not cause any trouble at all. You must ask yourself why at the same match, with the same conditions, there was no trouble with the Milan fans - only the Liverpool fans."
Liverpool, naturally, are unwilling to comment on the report before they have actually received a copy themselves, but maintained their previous assertion that Uefa had badly mismanaged ticketing in Athens.
"The shortcomings in the management of the situation in Athens were apparent to anyone who was there and this latest statement from Uefa should not deflect attention away from that reality," said a club spokesman.
4 Eyes Better Than 2
Player Valuation: £8m
Bit weird how @BlueToff has spent the best part of 50 pages and 12 hours defending kopite scum. He doesn't just have a difference of opinion and move on, but spends practically all day, page after page defending that behaviour.
Despite there being footage after footage, pic after pic of the kopites causing chaos AGAIN in europe.
In fact........ it's really weird.
Despite there being footage after footage, pic after pic of the kopites causing chaos AGAIN in europe.
In fact........ it's really weird.
Toast
Player Valuation: £80m
I actually think UEFA will make them look silly here you know.
Our FA and I’d be expecting a replay, UEFA will find nothing wrong with their arrangements and blame them.
I'm not from Liverpool. I can't stand the club, and most of the fanbase, it's like a cult, but ultimately I've seen images of those days when Everton were successful, like @MikelsGoat shared earlier. I've heard stories from my dad in the 80s when he used to go to every away game, and there'd be fans getting in on the terraces without tickets. I've seen what happened in Lille, when I don't think our fans were to blame one bit, at the hand of the same or very similar police tactics...
So no, I'm not 'waving my red pom poms'. I don't like them. But I'll call out twisted tribalism when I see it too. Liverpool, unfortunately - for many different reasons - provide big stories and with that comes media clout. We can hate it, but it is what it is. Doesn't mean that they're all angels - and there definitely isn't enough room to call some of their behaviour out because of what happened at Hillsborough - but also doesn't mean that every journalist reporting what happened is obsessed with Liverpool. It's more likely that actually, they were just caught in the crossfire and provided their account of it.
thanks 4 eyes
Yeah well that would explain all the pick pockets
4 Eyes Better Than 2
Player Valuation: £8m
Only needed 2 to read the guff you've been writing all day mate
I mean I have to watch a fair bit of European footy for work and while there's been crowd trouble I don't think there's many examples of 1000s of fans storming a pitch and throwing flares at their own players...
That's good
You can't go to another country, and start causing chaos by forcing through the barriers with fake tickets and then cry as the victim of police violence. France isn't England and they are entitled to be "violent" if they wish to be. It's like going to Dubai to do weed and then complaining about receiving a life sentence. I don't get why people from England expect every nation to have soft policing like it's the UK, where you could deface statues and be applauded by the police for it.