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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

So there’s first hand evidence (be it video or their own admission) now of the following

Lfc fans jibbing
Lfc fans climbing fences to get in
Lfc fans assaulting a L’equipe journo
An LFC fan assaulting a cameraman
Lfc fans selling fake tickets


I haven’t seen any of the above mentioned once in the British media. Literally not once.

Again the french government are chatting [Poor language removed] with their figures, again the locals have caused havoc and had trouble with fans after, again the french police are bellends.

But you’d think with the evidence of the above being out there it would at least get a mention no?
double checking there sources. only way to be sure.
 
We know who did, and he was referring to pitch invasions - which is daft from him because he's a massive ted.

But why should a father or mother or uncle or aunt not be able to take a child to a football match?

Get a grip mate come on.
depends, are they collecting the spoils a la fagan in oliver?
 
UEFA, The Paris Police / Govt, rs.
All 3 have massive publicity machines...though the rs is the biggest.
All will go into full protection / Whataboutery mode.

Predicted Result; rs will just about manage to slide out from under...as per usual.

they’re own fans taking selfies with the fake tickets

they’re own manager saying travel


it’s never them tho
 

This is from the Guardian in 2007 after the Athens final. They have always been the same:

Uefa condemns Liverpool fans as 'worst behaved in Europe'​

This article is more than 14 years old
'What other set of fans steal tickets from their fellow supporters or out of the hands of children?'
Liverpool fans in Athens

Liverpool's fans have been involved in 25 separate disturbances at European away games in the last four years, according to Uefa. Photograph: EPA

Staff and agencies
Mon 4 Jun 2007 08.49 BST


A leaked Uefa report has branded Liverpool's fans the "worst behaved in Europe" as the debate over who was to blame for the ticketing chaos at this year's Champions League final rumbles on.
European football's governing body commissioned undercover police to compile a report into the behaviour of fans four years ago, and their completed report states Liverpool fans has been involved in 25 separate disturbances at European away games since 2003 - more than those of any other club.

Uefa president Michel Platini had already been set to meet sports minister Richard Caborn in Brussels tomorrow to discuss fan violence in Athens, and will now use the report to support his demand that Liverpool impose tighter security checks on fans travelling abroad.
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"The incidents involving Liverpool fans have been well known to us before the trouble at the Champions League final which involved Liverpool fans last week," said Uefa spokesman William Gaillard. "That was just the latest example. What other set of fans steal tickets from their fellow supporters or out of the hands of children?
"We know what happened in Athens, and Liverpool fans were the cause of most of the trouble there. There have been 25 incidents involving Liverpool fans away from home since 2003 and these are in the report - most teams' supporters do not cause any trouble at all. You must ask yourself why at the same match, with the same conditions, there was no trouble with the Milan fans - only the Liverpool fans."
Liverpool, naturally, are unwilling to comment on the report before they have actually received a copy themselves, but maintained their previous assertion that Uefa had badly mismanaged ticketing in Athens.
"The shortcomings in the management of the situation in Athens were apparent to anyone who was there and this latest statement from Uefa should not deflect attention away from that reality," said a club spokesman.
Uefa are liars mate, Tez and Dabbo from the local swear blind it wasnt any reds making havoc. proper double down sweared like.
 
Bit weird how @BlueToff has spent the best part of 50 pages and 12 hours defending kopite scum. He doesn't just have a difference of opinion and move on, but spends practically all day, page after page defending that behaviour.

Despite there being footage after footage, pic after pic of the kopites causing chaos AGAIN in europe.

In fact........ it's really weird.
 
i seen that . It was moody and St etienne are renowned for having ground closures due to fan trouble .

as much as I don’t like tear gassing people I hate kopites devine right to get into any big game by hook or crook at the expense of their own people even more . They are a stain on this city and you can’t help waving your red Pom poms in the air for them,

GO BUNKERS
I'm not from Liverpool. I can't stand the club, and most of the fanbase, it's like a cult, but ultimately I've seen images of those days when Everton were successful, like @MikelsGoat shared earlier. I've heard stories from my dad in the 80s when he used to go to every away game, and there'd be fans getting in on the terraces without tickets. I've seen what happened in Lille, when I don't think our fans were to blame one bit, at the hand of the same or very similar police tactics...

So no, I'm not 'waving my red pom poms'. I don't like them. But I'll call out twisted tribalism when I see it too. Liverpool, unfortunately - for many different reasons - provide big stories and with that comes media clout. We can hate it, but it is what it is. Doesn't mean that they're all angels - and there definitely isn't enough room to call some of their behaviour out because of what happened at Hillsborough - but also doesn't mean that every journalist reporting what happened is obsessed with Liverpool. It's more likely that actually, they were just caught in the crossfire and provided their account of it.
 
Bit weird how @BlueToff has spent the best part of 50 pages and 12 hours defending kopite scum. He doesn't just have a difference of opinion and move on, but spends practically all day, page after page defending that behaviour.

Despite there being footage after footage, pic after pic of the kopites causing chaos AGAIN in europe.

In fact........ it's really weird.
thanks 4 eyes
 

Noticed that the BBC carried that story. Haven't seen many other stories about European fan misbehaviour. Surely a coincidence that it was a French match and French fans misbehaving. Got to be!
I mean I have to watch a fair bit of European footy for work and while there's been crowd trouble I don't think there's many examples of 1000s of fans storming a pitch and throwing flares at their own players...
 
You can't go to another country, and start causing chaos by forcing through the barriers with fake tickets and then cry as the victim of police violence. France isn't England and they are entitled to be "violent" if they wish to be. It's like going to Dubai to do weed and then complaining about receiving a life sentence. I don't get why people from England expect every nation to have soft policing like it's the UK, where you could deface statues and be applauded by the police for it.
 

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