ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[woodsyni]

i`ll leave you two to wank each other off while i go and do some work. smell you later

This IS your work, no? You mean go to your next forum? Forest, maybe? Fresh meat?

 

[catcherintherye]

Hello my good man, have you been a GOT member previously?

This chat with catcher looks remarkably similar. If not, I'm not sure what conclusions one could possibly reach from this debate.

He's shown me. Defending fascism, attacking immigrants for no reason, quoting fascistic news outlets, making racist comments. That's me shown.

 

[woodsyni]

He's shown me. Defending fascism, attacking immigrants for no reason, quoting fascistic news outlets, making racist comments. That's me shown.

He made mincemeat out of us all.... I, for one, may never recover.

 

[matty1878]

so now uefa/ wanna apologise to liverpool?


sickening

 

[catcherintherye]

I've gone off on a bit of a tangent.

But honestly, trying to invoke fascist nonsense about Koln, or people of colour in Paris to deflect from poor behaviour is really dangerous and has to be challenged.

Football hooliganism is not a uniquely Kopite thing, but we can't let it pass that we blame people of colour for the behaviour of hooligans. That attempted distortion is unacceptable.

Whatever your perspective on whether it is UEFA, or hooligans to blame, (in honesty it's both) lets not let the far right start dictating the narrative.

 

[dholliday]

Reckon the first step would be to ignore the colour of the skin, no? A thug is s thug. No need to bring race into it imo.

But what if the group of "thugs" all have similar background? By not talking about it, despite clearly noticing it, we leave an opening for the extremists to make hay.

This is, in my view, the main cause of the damaging culture wars we have now. Calling everything "racist" clearly isn't working, as things appear to be worse now than say 10 years ago.

You said "far worse" than Kopites.

I didn't. Or where do you think I said that?

As a writer yourself you should know the importance of quotation-accuracy.

I have given you evidence of Kopites throwing bricks at randomers.

Which evidence? And why is this relevant to our debate?

I'm interested in what happens in Sweden, or Koln that is "far worse" than this?

Again, you're quoting "far worse" when I didn't say that.

But seeing as you asked the question: rape & murder are generally recognised as being "far worse" than the bricks you mention.

The "local gangs" thing is not far worse than Kopites, or anything else. It's a dog whistle. A dog whistle that is massively over represented in our media, who won't put out that Liverpool fans bragged about entering the stadium illegally. So it is taboo, unlike the heaps of nonsense about immigrants that we are fed day after day.

...in your opinion.

 

[catcherintherye]

so now uefa/ wanna apologise to liverpool?


sickening

They've apologised to the supporters with legitimate tickets who were denied entry. They are due an apology and UEFA have done the right thing in doing so.

The hooligans who went without tickets, and those who gained entry illegally also owe an apology.

 

[catcherintherye]

But what if the group of "thugs" all have similar background? By not talking about it, despite clearly noticing it, we leave an opening for the extremists to make hay.

This is, in my view, the main cause of the damaging culture wars we have now. Calling everything "racist" clearly isn't working, as things appear to be worse now than say 10 years ago.




I didn't. Or where do you think I said that?

As a writer yourself you should know the importance of quotation-accuracy.



Which evidence? And why is this relevant to our debate?



Again, you're quoting "far worse" when I didn't say that.

But seeing as you asked the question: rape & murder are generally recognised as being "far worse" than the bricks you mention.



...in your opinion.

So where did rape or murder happen then? Because those links were rebuffed about Koln.

I'm not going down the rabbit hole any more than to say, in the real world of what happened, nothing happened in Koln that was in any way comparable to the behaviour of what LFC hooligans did in Paris. It is a racist smear to say anything else.

 

[woodsyni]

But what if the group of "thugs" all have similar background? By not talking about it, despite clearly noticing it, we leave an opening for the extremists to make hay.

This is, in my view, the main cause of the damaging culture wars we have now. Calling everything "racist" clearly isn't working, as things appear to be worse now than say 10 years ago.




I didn't. Or where do you think I said that?

As a writer yourself you should know the importance of quotation-accuracy.



Which evidence? And why is this relevant to our debate?



Again, you're quoting "far worse" when I didn't say that.

But seeing as you asked the question: rape & murder are generally recognised as being "far worse" than the bricks you mention.



...in your opinion.

It's my experience that "just wanting to talk about" an issue is a weasel way to open a racist agenda. Not saying you are, mind.....

 

[dholliday]

The attempted distortion is unacceptable.

...lets not let the far right start dictating the narrative.

The Far-Right are dictating precisely because we are not.


Or how do you explain the contents of this video?

 

[Taifi gorm]

If shes not careful she could end up on a one way flight to Rwanda.

Is there a gofundme for that

 

[magicjuan]

there you go again with your virtue signalling. youre a saint we know, we know. stop going on about it...unless youve got something you feel you need to prove

Reckon he's proven you're a [Poor language removed]

 

[AndyC]

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Nice, I only needed "virtue signalling" and "culture war" to complete my alt-right jargon bingo card for the day.

HOUSE!

 

[Rita_Poon]

But what if the group of "thugs" all have similar background? By not talking about it, despite clearly noticing it, we leave an opening for the extremists to make hay.

forgive my part quote please, the thugs do all have a similar background, they are kopites and they stink. how the media and their paymasters here have neglected this fact is dangerous. its allowed a whole host of demented cretins of the aldo ilk to scream the loudest about victimisation.