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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

John BCN said:
It seems the Socialist Reds are inadvertently linking up with some unsavoury bedfellows (or is it oddfellows?)

metro.co.uk

How the French far right is trying to use Liverpool fans' suffering to gain

Liverpool fans should take care with online messages which seem to be supportive.
metro.co.uk metro.co.uk
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It's no surprise they are working in conjunction with fascists in France to propagate a load of racist nonsense.

Utter scum those sort of people.

It's a good job a decent, left of centre regime can see through the nonsense in France.
 
FrenchDarrenBent said:
Madrid was never great by any stretch of the imagination.
Makes it even better.
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If you were impartially picking a combined 11 then

Courtois
Casemiro
Kroos
Modric
Benzema

All walk into it without even getting into a debate on the other positions. That alone should have been enough to at least have a bit of humility and caution about the game. Modric and Benzema can win any game in world football in a few minutes when they click as Chelsea and City found out. But no, just pundit after pundit coming out telling anyone who would listen how it would be a comfortable win for Liverpool. Unbelievably arrogant.
 
Saint Domingo said:
If you were impartially picking a combined 11 then

Courtois
Casemiro
Kroos
Modric
Benzema

All walk into it without even getting into a debate on the other positions. That alone should have been enough to at least have a bit of humility and caution about the game. Modric and Benzema can win any game in world football in a few minutes when they click as Chelsea and City found out. But no, just pundit after pundit coming out telling anyone who would listen how it would be a comfortable win for Liverpool. Unbelievably arrogant.
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The thing is as well, despite being good players, they are natural winners who have done this multiple times. A lot of those lads have won 3, 4, 5 CLs. It's not a big deal for them. Ancelotti has now won 4. It's not his most impressive.

They saw what European Royalty looked like, and it was completely uninterested in Liverpool. As Ancelotti intimated, the tougher games had already been navigated, and it wasnt really a big deal.
 
davek said:
IMO they are gone for another year or so as serious contenders for the big trophies. This season was optimum for them to do that.

Their attack is in a period of rebuild if Mane leaves as expected. City are going to get stronger and they'll recognise that and plan accordingly.

The MSM will have a decision to make: continue down this road of backing Liverpool to the hilt or realise that they'll look a busted flush in the eyes of the majority of football fans in this country and ease away from Liverpool. They know in any case that social media makes them redundant for increassing swathes of football fans. Their choice...and their editors choice too.
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Tbh what will likely happen is they fall away massively but in doing so massive media scrutiny is instead placed on City and subsequently Newcastle, rather than on the failings of Klopp and his team.

I guarantee that if they have a bad season the narrative will shift to City’s financial doping rather than focus on their team. This is what happened after the CL final. No focus on how Klopp was tactically outclassed by Carlo, no analysis of their workman midfield being outplayed by Modric and Kroos, the display of Benzema and Vinicius, nothing about the world’s best centre half and right back looking like defensive donkeys, nothing about how Madrid carved them open with one move whereas they couldn’t craft a thing. It was all about the ticketing and policing problems. Which is fine to cover, but some actual football analysis would have been nice.

The media adores Liverpool this is certain. But I think we have to acknowledge that for the “product” things may still go in their favour. Unless Chelsea step up, possibly United and Spurs but it’s unlikely, if that lot fall away the media and Sky will be faced with the prospect of trying to sell a slightly better version of Ligue Une as City stroll to their ninth title. Sky will not want that to happen.
 

bluetack said:
Isn't it about time they took down their cringeworthy banners now after 11 days?
Went out this morning for a walk to the shops and still loads of them hanging aloft , "the days are good, but the nights are special" was one I thought would be well binned by now.
The night was special alright- for agent Carlo.
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I've always though people who used to put loads of decorations on their houses, primarily for Christmas were probably paedophiles. If an adult male is doing it, it's really dubious.
 
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bluetack said:
Isn't it about time they took down their cringeworthy banners now after 11 days?
Went out this morning for a walk to the shops and still loads of them hanging aloft , "the days are good, but the nights are special" was one I thought would be well binned by now.
The night was special alright- for agent Carlo.
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It saves the scruffy bastards buying curtains.
 
Deckard2049 said:
Tbh what will likely happen is they fall away massively but in doing so massive media scrutiny is instead placed on City and subsequently Newcastle, rather than on the failings of Klopp and his team.

I guarantee that if they have a bad season the narrative will shift to City’s financial doping rather than focus on their team. This is what happened after the CL final. No focus on how Klopp was tactically outclassed by Carlo, no analysis of their workman midfield being outplayed by Modric and Kroos, the display of Benzema and Vinicius, nothing about the world’s best centre half and right back looking like defensive donkeys, nothing about how Madrid carved them open with one move whereas they couldn’t craft a thing. It was all about the ticketing and policing problems. Which is fine to cover, but some actual football analysis would have been nice.

The media adores Liverpool this is certain. But I think we have to acknowledge that for the “product” things may still go in their favour. Unless Chelsea step up, possibly United and Spurs but it’s unlikely, if that lot fall away the media and Sky will be faced with the prospect of trying to sell a slightly better version of Ligue Une as City stroll to their ninth title. Sky will not want that to happen.
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Yes, and all that's ok for FSG too.

To them it's a matter of profile, revenue and growing the brand. If that involves trophies every season then great - but being second best to City for years and failing to win a massive trophy each season is not necessarily a dire scenario.
 
NathDogg said:
I think you underestimate the power of the dark side/kloppozade/jergens spezial hug-bumfinger technique mate.

Add to the farcical officiating and var calls that they will continue to be handed on a plate, as already mentioned by @Saint Domingo and they won’t be far off the same “fairytale” that they very nearly were awarded last season.
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I dont see that tbh. They were at peak Liverpool in the last 3/4 seasons and took one asterisk title and a CL crown...against Spurs.

They're now on the other side of that peak. Mane going and Salah looking like he wants out underlines that. Players *know*.
 

davek said:
I dont see that tbh. They were at peak Liverpool in the last 3/4 seasons and took one asterisk title and a CL crown...against Spurs.

They're now on the other side of that peak. Mane going and Salah looking like he wants out underlines that. Players *know*.
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Really hope you’re spot on mate.

Imagine how bad the rs would be with them just having an “average” season for once (no trophies/top 6 finish) - it would be carnage.
 
Prevenger17 said:
@EverTheOptimist come on mate, it's been nearly two weeks. You won an FA Cup, not terrible in the scheme of things and you should be proud of your boys. They came up against European Royalty and got spanked, happens to the best of them.
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Think he's still waiting for penalties mate, probably thinks it's the only fair way to win a cup competition..
 

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