Chewbacca
Player Valuation: £30m
I absolutely would not replace Pickford with Allison
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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3
- Thread starter cronullasharks
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Alanbileysfeathercut
Player Valuation: £70m
See Micah on motd had to mention Alison ,when speaking about somebody else.
And Shearer made an ignored point about Allison's poor placement for the Arsenal goal.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He was a very good player but not a team player. I'd compare him to a player from the past like Brian Robson, but Robbo was the ultimate team player and led his men much more obviously than GBH, AND who could pull it out of the fire for United with a bit of individualism like Gerrard.
Robson was a better player than Gerrard IMO.
John from Bootle
Player Valuation: £10m
He was also far too big for his boots.
Peter Crouch has spoken on his podcast about how Gerrard and Carragher would basically decide if they'd like a player after one or two training sessions. He spoke about players being finished at Liverpool after their first training session. But he was speaking about it as a good thing; standards, and all that. But read between the lines, and what he was talking about was a captain who wasn't interested in his team mates well-being unless he deemed them good enough.
His attitude to new signings was never 'I'm the skipper, I'll do everything I can to help this new player settle in.'
Basically, during that period, if you weren't of the Alonso, Torres, Suarez ilk, and didn't show it almost immediately in training, then you would be treated like you didn't belong.
No surprise they've been a much better team since he hung his boots up. His 'all about me' attitude held them back for years.
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Pilks
Player Valuation: £6m
Basically we should all be 100% behind Villa's astonishing resurgence at the moment if for no other reason than to rub it right in the face of Stevie Me, who let us not forget was driving them over a cliff before the wheel was wrestled off him. If they managed to win the league the very next season it would be glorious...
Dario Terracotta
Player Valuation: £70m
Nunes sarcastically applauding the ref last week too after being booked.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
That's why both him and Carragher hated Benitez.
Benitez was a manager who'd underline that he was the boss...which is why he had Gerrard playing in every position he wanted him in rather than where GBH wanted to play.
Gerrard and Carragher took the piss out of Rodgers though.
Yet Gerard, in the 2005 Champs League final, having told the rest of the team to ignore Benitez at half time and follow his lead, almost single handily turned the game on its head and won it.
Benitez was then only too happy to dine out on that game, for the rest of his rancid career.
They were both egotistical horrors and deeply unpleasant people.
It goes both ways.
YoboCopter
Player Valuation: £50m
Ye lets make no bones about it gerrard was one of the best players weve ever seen in prem
John from Bootle
Player Valuation: £10m
Yes and no. Very good player, but not of the standard of Henry, Ronaldo, Bale, Suarez, and possibly others I can't reel off the top of my head.
lol
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Not for me. Think he’s always been massively overrated. Great in moments and great in the prem of second balls on the edge of the box and long diagonals. Not consistent enough though, world class for one game then average for two after when they’d drop points and he’d do nothing but stand around moaning. The likes of Scholes Keane Carrick, De Bruyne, Silva Rodri Lampard etc. they were putting in consistent high class performances every week and that’s why they won leagues. Even the likes of Kante Vieira did it more regularly than Gerrard. He had a high ceiling but was inconsistent.
He also got found out in international football where you can’t hit a long diagonal and then try and pick up the second ball on the l edge of the box and lash it at goal. He regularly just got absolutely embarrassed by real world class midfielders like Zidane Pirlo Xavi Iniesta etc. he even got outplayed by some very average international midfields that worked as a team. He couldn’t control a tactical game, it was just Hollywood balls and statement goals. Very good player but not world class and nowhere near the best in the prem for me.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He's defo one of the top 10 midfielders in the PL era. Nowhere near the level of technical excellence of a Modric or Scholes, and nowhere near the positional nous of a pivot player like Carrick. He's not in that class. Neither was he a destroyer-creator like Nkante who truly did drag an unfashionable team to a league title.
He was more of a goal scorer than a midfielder - but not a top top goalscorer either. Frank registered more goals in the same era, so he cant even be seen as the best of that type of GS midfielder either.
Stripped of all the Kopite media BS that's what he was. A 1:4 per game goal scoring midfielder.
His reputation was built on inspiring a comeback to grab a draw against a Milan team that clocked off at HT.
In a Liverpool team that was well capable of nicking a couple of titles given the goals scoring threat they had he failed to land the biggest prize in club football - the English league title. He was;t good enough to inspire that. In fact his own failure in one title race denied them one.
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