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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

I don't know if anyone has seen this article;


Essentially stating one club is losing 9m per week (around £470 per year, or 540 euro's a year). Comment one from a Kopite is it must be us who rent the training ground from the council (we don't). They talk about us in a manner that is 20 years out of date and it's quite sweet.

Anyway my initial thoughts on reading this were that it will be bad for everyone, as if 1 team is losing that level of money they are all probably losing a lot. I thought 5 teams would have that sort of turnover. On further inspection only 3 teams make upwards of 9 million a year or anything close (Spurs will be now much lower this season without a CL run) Chelsea may be a 4th.

We don't make anything close to £9m a week, so it's funny how some suggested it was us. 3 teams do. Manchester United, Liverpool and City. They are the only 3 teams it could feasible be.

To narrow it down further you would surely ask, which club has acted in a pretty panicked way early into this crisis, maybe trying to get the government to pay their staffs costs? 1 team in the top 5 (Chelsea, Arsenal, United, City & Liverpool) turnover wise have chosen to furlough staff.

I saw it initially in the Daily Star, but it apparently broke in the Mirror which have good sources at Liverpool. Manchester United have recently had an article in the Times saying they are fine financially and will spend big (which I think is probably untrue but hard to imagine the are briefing in such a way). Maybe Manchester City are losing £9 million per week and want to report it? Possibly.

The likeliest contender (by some distance) though would seem to be Liverpool. If it is them it's absolutely disastrous news. It would imply they are losing almost all of the sponsorship moneys for the duration of this crisis. It would suggest the contracts have enormous loopholes if they are already being enacted this early into the crisis. I would also deduce, it's highly unlikely that if football goes back behind closed doors, those sponsorships would go back to anything near full value either. Some may just terminate, others may well settle at 50%-60% of the initial value.

They are still paying back for that eyesore of a stand aren't they as well?

Thats really serious though. For whoever it is. Best case scenario is we start against part way through June meaning just over 3 months of this level of money lost. Well over £100m lost and probably pushing £150m. If we have to wait until August and the system is voided you could be pushing that number north of £200million.

The £100m loan makes sense with this too. Spiralling wage costs and overall costs probably running at about 80% of turnover means you would need £100m loan to cover the costs from 120m lost.

For whoever that club is though, even in the best case scenario it is a disaster. Any emergency loan, at this stage is going to be well above what the standard rate would be. (Banks are having to prioritise loans to business, so what liquidity they have is not going to football clubs). To enter a negotiation now, you may be looking at 15% to get them to arrange a short term agreement, maybe even north of that. Thats £15-£20 in interest you are paying back each year.

For whoever that club is, best case scenario is they get the loan, the fees aren't too crazy and neither is the interest (working to the above numbers) and it's belt tightening exercise. Worst case scenario they have to start panic selling to cover the money back, either as collateral, or because their owners can't have that much debt being piled on the hundreds of millions outstanding.

Buckle yourselves in lads, I strongly suspect they are going to start trying to push Mane out in desperation for some cash (if it's them). They hawked him around last summer of £150m and nobody even consider it. Real Madrid wouldn't pay half that. They are in serious financial trouble now as well. I think a day of reckoning is coming.

Oh please God let this be true! In these dark times let this be true.
LFC have been fellating Satan's willy for over 50 years. Maybe he has actually got tired of them.
 
Oh please God let this be true! In these dark times let this be true.
LFC have been fellating Satan's willy for over 50 years. Maybe he has actually got tired of them.

I mean some of the fatalism on here regarding them doesn't really stand up to me. They do well for the most part because they are well run and make good decisions. However they are not immune to wider pressures. There's a bit of media bias and perhaps a little bit of pressure legally, but I can assure you when you are dealing with big American corporate owing money, the concerns of some Liverpool fans will be very low down on the priorities as we move forward.

If it's them losing 9 million a week, they are under enormous pressure. Financial realities won't care that it's Liverpool.
 

To be fair and as you would expect for the BBC the language used to describe the events of the Heysel disaster is somewhat sanitised.
This would be more seem more historically sound:-

Less than 100 miles and a fortnight away from their Rotterdam triumph, 39 people died and 600 were injured when fans were crushed against a wall that then collapsed during the European Cup final between Liverpool and Juventus, after crowd trouble culminated in a surge by Liverpool supporters on a murderous rampage towards the Italian team's fans.
Oh yeah. It's defo the type of cover up language we're used to regarding Heysel.
 

You forgetting Liverpool's wage bill?

I'm not sure what it is in comparison to others. Obviously I'd expect it to be high but I'm not sure why everyone is necessarily assuming its them. They wouldn't halt a revenue stream like that if they were haemorrhaging money.

Wishful thinking I suppose.
 
I'm not sure what it is in comparison to others. Obviously I'd expect it to be high but I'm not sure why everyone is necessarily assuming its them. They wouldn't halt a revenue stream like that if they were haemorrhaging money.

Wishful thinking I suppose.

Supposedly their wage bill is £310m. In world footy only Real Madrid (£312m) Barca (£438m) Man U (£332m) and Man City (£315m) have higher wage bills.
 

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