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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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Mvflusk said:
Liverpool's press officers have dug his grave.

They put it out that he said "negrito" which is a supposed term of endearment, when in fact he said "negro" which is nothing of the sort.

Similarly they alleged Evra called Suarez a "sudaca", a slur on South Americans when in actual fact he is ACCUSED of saying "Sudamericano" which simply means South American and according to the Spanish language experts brought in has never been used as a short hand offensive slur. (Paragraph 362)

They've basically created their own evidence to get into the media before anyone could see the facts and it hasn't worked.
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Is that true, was it their press officers who said that? Outrageous if it was.


Anyway, moving on. Sensitive refereeing here.

103. Mr Evra's evidence was that while he was walking towards the referee he said "ref, ref, he
just called me a ****ing black". He said that he did not know whether the referee heard his
comment. The referee said something like "Calm down, Patrice, the game has been
brilliant, stop the pushing between you and Suarez, the game is going well."
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This is clearly terrible lies from Suarez, and the kopites bought it. Poor sweet innocent Suarez, at least he didn't bite him.

104. Mr Suarez's evidence was that simultaneously with the blowing of the whistle, Mr Evra
said to him "Don't touch me, South American". Mr Suarez took this to be a reference to his
touching Mr Evra's arm on the goal-line a few moments earlier. Mr Suarez said that he
turned to Mr Evra and said "Por que, negro?". He said that he used the word "negro" at
this point in the way that he did when he was growing up in Uruguay, that is as a friendly
form of address to people seen as black or brown-skinned or even just black-haired. He
said that he used it in the same way that he did when he spoke to Glen Johnson, the black
Liverpool player. He said in no way was the use of the word "negro" intended to be
offensive or to be racially offensive. It was intended as an attempt at conciliation.
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248. It was plain to us that Mr Suarez's pinching of Mr Evra's arm was not an attempt to defuse
the situation. It could not conceivably be described in that way. In our judgment, the
pinching was calculated to have the opposite effect, namely to aggravate Mr Evra and to
inflame the situation. We infer that this was Mr Suarez's intention. Mr Suarez's face
reveals hostility towards Mr Evra, the pinching is preceded by Mr Suarez looking Mr Evra
up and down, and Mr Suarez steps away having pinched Mr Evra as Mr Kuyt steps in to
face up to Mr Evra.
249. What concerned us also was that Mr Suarez should have made what we considered to be
such an unarguable assertion in his witness statement, ie that the pinching was an attempt
to defuse the situation when it plainly was not.

*shakes head*
 
I like this RAWK response

"This reads like United have written it.

(4) Mr Evra was a credible witness. He gave his evidence in a calm, composed and
clear way. It was, for the most part, consistent, although both he and Mr Suarez
were understandably unable to remember every detail of the exchanges between
them (paragraphs 229 to 234 above).
(5) Mr Suarez's evidence was unreliable in relation to matters of critical importance.
It was, in part, inconsistent with the contemporaneous evidence, especially the
video footage. For example, Mr Suarez said that he pinched Mr Evra's skin in an
attempt to defuse the situation. He also said that his use of the word "negro" to
address Mr Evra was conciliatory and friendly. We rejected that evidence "


So basically the RS are still going to defend the indefensible even though the FA are basically cally Suarez a liar. I'm sure that there will be some tasteless response from across the park......
 
peteblue said:
So basically the RS are still going to defend the indefensible even though the FA are basically cally Suarez a liar. I'm sure that there will be some tasteless response from across the park......
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Any appeal is doomed to failure. I hope they do. They'll end up looking like bigger tits than they've already made themselves look.
 

The Liverpool FC Press Team have spun this fantastically. They need f*cking for this. Remember how Evra was meant to have said to the referee that he was booking him as he was black? Maybe not.

Mr Kuyt gave a slightly different version from Mr Marriner, Mr Evra and Mr Giggs. He
said that after the goal kick he was close to Mr Evra and said "Come on, let's move on, let's
keep going with the game" and touched Mr Evra just on the arm. According to Mr Kuyt,
Mr Evra reacted aggressively and smashed his arm away and at that point, the referee
having seen the incident, called Mr Evra to him and booked him. Mr Kuyt said that he
was very close to Mr Evra and the referee at this time. He said he was "absolutely certain"
that he heard Mr Evra say that the referee was only booking him because he was black.
116. We found the evidence of Mr Marriner on this point to be credible and plausible. He
recalled Mr Evra telling him that he was being called black. This is consistent with Mr
Evra's evidence of what he told Mr Marriner at that time, and also with Mr Giggs'
evidence of what Mr Evra said to him shortly afterwards. In light of this, we reject Mr
Kuyt's evidence that Mr Evra said that the referee was only booking him because he was
black, however certain Mr Kuyt was that he heard it. Moreover, it would make no sense in
the circumstances for Mr Evra to accuse the referee of only booking him because he was
black. Not only had Mr Evra pushed Mr Kuyt away, which he is likely to have realised
had led to his booking, but his concern at that stage was that he had been called black
(bearing in mind that, at the very least, Mr Suarez admits having called Mr Evra "negro"
by this stage of the game).
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Laughing at one of the identified weaknesses of Liverpool's case being the inconsistency between what Comolli, Dalglish and Suarez cooked up between them.

You'd think they'd be well versed in falsifying evidence at libpoolfootballclub. Poor effort that lads!!
 
Wonderful from Senor Dalglish.

Mr Dalglish also gave evidence on this point. He said that they thought it was sensible to
get Mr Comolli, as a Spanish speaking person, to speak to Mr Suarez in his native tongue.
Mr Dalglish does not speak Spanish, other than what he called "restaurant Spanish". He
did, however, tell us that he knew (before the conversation with Mr Suarez) that the
Spanish word "negro" means black.
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chicoazul said:
The Liverpool FC Press Team have spun this fantastically. They need f*cking for this. Remember how Evra was meant to have said to the referee that he was booking him as he was black? Maybe not.
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It's real chuckle head stuff. Typical of them: as per, they thought they just had to scream and stamp their feet for this to be dealth with.

Tough lesson for them here alright.
 

Walken said:
Its amateur hour Dave, the whole thing smells of Dalglish having too much power at that club if you ask me, hes been the driving force behind this pathetic defense
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To be honest, Dalglish's comments could be considered to be in violation of the Equality Act 2010, given that he didn't seem prepared to investigate the complaint and was infact trying to defame Evra's character on baseless evidence.

Dalgish's response is disgraceful really. He SHOULD of said to the ref. "Ok Ref I'm going to investigate this myself on behalf of LFC as Suarez's employer"

He was LEGALLY OBLIGED to do that. But didn't. Ergo Dalglish broke UK law.
 
Walken said:
Its amateur hour Dave, the whole thing smells of Dalglish having too much power at that club if you ask me, hes been the driving force behind this pathetic defense
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Henry will bin the Steptoe-rag when they fail to reach the CL.

Pity like, he's doing as good a job as Benitez continuing their decline.
 

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