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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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McGeady just has no end product, will be found out in the league I think. We really need another wide player.

Thats the only outfield position where they look better though. Its a bit bizarre looking at their team and thinking where are the top players?

Poor Geads...hope he wins folks over. Sterling is pretty good like...something tells me Suarez made him look better than he really is...but I might be wrong. Mignolet was no where near his best last season.
 
McGeady just has no end product, will be found out in the league I think. We really need another wide player.

Thats the only outfield position where they look better though. Its a bit bizarre looking at their team and thinking where are the top players?

It does seem to be the general consensus on here about Geads...although that vaulting poll proved otherwise. Personally, a winger who can ghost past people like they aren't there and can deliver a good ball seems pretty ace to me. My current problem with all of our ace crossing from the left side (Baines included) is we don't have anyone getting on good balls into the box. For me, Rom's biggest area of growth will be attacking crosses.

Put it this way...and this might be a bit controversial...but McGeady is the better than Pienaar in his prime IMO. Team game tho...and he and Baines did have some magic going on between the two of them.
 
I think he would be better off coming off the bench when legs are tired and he can run directly towards goal -- can get a lot of free kicks for baines that way.

Not sure of his crossing % success but I cant see it being very high. Pienaar has always been a 'link player'someone who wouldnt get goals or assists but would move the ball well. Hes past it now though.

Think Pienaar and McGeady on the bench with a top winger needed. Inagine having kanchelskis in this side.


It does seem to be the general consensus on here about Geads...although that vaulting poll proved otherwise. Personally, a winger who can ghost past people like they aren't there and can deliver a good ball seems pretty ace to me. My current problem with all of our ace crossing from the left side (Baines included) is we don't have anyone getting on good balls into the box. For me, Rom's biggest area of growth will be attacking crosses.

Put it this way...and this might be a bit controversial...but McGeady is the better than Pienaar in his prime IMO. Team game tho...and he and Baines did have some magic going on between the two of them.
 
I think he would be better off coming off the bench when legs are tired and he can run directly towards goal -- can get a lot of free kicks for baines that way.

Not sure of his crossing % success but I cant see it being very high. Pienaar has always been a 'link player'someone who wouldnt get goals or assists but would move the ball well. Hes past it now though.

Think Pienaar and McGeady on the bench with a top winger needed. Inagine having kanchelskis in this side.

Hmm...guess I see him differently. Goal scoring isn't what he's meant to do in my eyes...he's a different winger than Mirallas. Mirallas is more of a forward in a 4-3-3 formation...scoring is a priority for him...for me he's a poor man's Suarez (and I actually think it's his best position). Geads is more of a get to the line and cross winger based on what I've seen. You might be right that he'll be better against tired legs, but if Evertonians are expecting him to be a winger in the 4-3-3 mode, I think they are barking up the wrong tree. He's not a natural goal scorer I don't think...not bothered by that if he can pick a pass...and if our forwards get in position for crosses.
 
Hmm...guess I see him differently. Goal scoring isn't what he's meant to do in my eyes...he's a different winger than Mirallas. Mirallas is more of a forward in a 4-3-3 formation...scoring is a priority for him...for me he's a poor man's Suarez (and I actually think it's his best position). Geads is more of a get to the line and cross winger based on what I've seen. You might be right that he'll be better against tired legs, but if Evertonians are expecting him to be a winger in the 4-3-3 mode, I think they are barking up the wrong tree. He's not a natural goal scorer I don't think...not bothered by that if he can pick a pass...and if our forwards get in position for crosses.
I would agree with that, and think that is the beauty of the squad RM is building - we have such variety in the type of players who do similar jobs that we can adjust our tactics to suit the oppositions weakness.
 

Im not saying hes a goalscorer, just that he can run towards goal and win free kicks when against tired players.

I dont really rate him to be honest as he has no end product and cant cross the ball well it seems so not sure what hed be good for other than drawing fouls from tired legs.

Hmm...guess I see him differently. Goal scoring isn't what he's meant to do in my eyes...he's a different winger than Mirallas. Mirallas is more of a forward in a 4-3-3 formation...scoring is a priority for him...for me he's a poor man's Suarez (and I actually think it's his best position). Geads is more of a get to the line and cross winger based on what I've seen. You might be right that he'll be better against tired legs, but if Evertonians are expecting him to be a winger in the 4-3-3 mode, I think they are barking up the wrong tree. He's not a natural goal scorer I don't think...not bothered by that if he can pick a pass...and if our forwards get in position for crosses.
 
Im not saying hes a goalscorer, just that he can run towards goal and win free kicks when against tired players.

I dont really rate him to be honest as he has no end product and cant cross the ball well it seems so not sure what hed be good for other than drawing fouls from tired legs.

Well then, on this debate I will end will a 'wow' and I hope you are wrong...I see a player who makes defenders disappear and quality crossing.
 
LFC scored only 50% of their goals from open play, set pieces 26 goals Penalties 10 counter attack 9
Arsenal 79% open play , set pieces 12 goals penalties 3 counter attack 4
Chelsea 62% open play , set pieces 15 goals penalties 5 counter attack 5
City 65% open play , set pieces 20 goals penalties 6 counter attack 5
Us 66% open play , set pieces 12 goals penalties 3 counter attacks 3

LFC find it more difficult than any of the top teams in creating goals from open play, relying on set pieces, penalties and counter attacks. They don't have the creative flair to break down teams, that is why they resorted to long balls.

Dude have you actually thought about this before posting it ?

Using the wild assumption that counter attack goals are not open play, nor winning penalties from open play situations, this is saying Liverpool scored 50 goals from open play last year.....and we scored 40 from open play.

You see the problem ?
 
Seen somewhere on Twitter, "Liverpool paid 10 million pounds for Belgium's 1st choice striker. Everton have paid 30 for Belgium's second striker" as if that was any accurate way of comparing Origi and Rom. Sometimes they just don't have a clue.

My experience of them would up the ante with that. They can always be relied upon to make some childish comparison based on nothing because truth and reality have no bearing whatsoever on how they see things. That tweet you quoted should've had this reality check tagged on at the end..."and were that thick he isn't even going to play for us this season when weve just sold our best striker". That kind of thing.
 

Im not saying hes a goalscorer, just that he can run towards goal and win free kicks when against tired players.

I dont really rate him to be honest as he has no end product and cant cross the ball well it seems so not sure what hed be good for other than drawing fouls from tired legs.

You keep saying "no end product".

He is a winger...out and out.

His "end product" is to deliver the ball into the kill zone from wide.

This he done to great effect in the latter half of the season....most noticeably against Cardiff when his cross from an impossible looking position led to Seamus winning the game.

He has put great crosses in but no one was capable of meeting them on most occasions.

The night of the Crystal Palace defeat he was the only attacker taking the game to them in the first half.

McGeady has shown enough in his brief Everton career to deserve being given the benefit of the doubt as we enter the new season.
 
Dude have you actually thought about this before posting it ?

Using the wild assumption that counter attack goals are not open play, nor winning penalties from open play situations, this is saying Liverpool scored 50 goals from open play last year.....and we scored 40 from open play.

You see the problem ?

Hoof the ball down the middle, player falls over and gets a free kick, or penalty, goal scored. Player gets the ball in their half from an opposition corner, hoofs it to the wing, player beats the defender and scores.

Team concedes possession and parks the bus, player wins the ball and hoofs it down the middle and player scores. Player gets the ball from an opposition free kick runs the length of the field and passes it to striker who has stayed up and scores goal.

Player gets the ball from the keeper and there are numerous pass and moves because the opposition have got back, play is switched a number of times and players dragged out of position. There is a cross and a headed goal, or there is a shot and a goal or there is a through ball and a goal. This is the way Rodgers tells everyone how he likes to play the game. Scoring from 'open' play.

What the stat is showing is that of the top 5, LFC weren't creative enough to score goals when the opposition were behind the ball. They didn't have the skill and/or ability to break teams down. That is why they fall over to win free kicks, in and around the penalty area, and penalties. A tactic used by England, and Manu, when Beckham was in his prime.

Being effective from free kicks and corners is nothing to be sniffed at, and something I wish we were better at, but because LFC rely on free kicks then that is why they are constantly in the refs ear if they don't get one. Relying on penalties to get goals relies on how gullible a ref is, and how well the player can cheat, and there are no better divers than Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling and Gerrard when a penalty or free kick is 'needed'.
 
Theres far too much intellectual debate in this thread. Heres a little something that is so wrong on all levels just to balance things out. Let the festival of cringing commence

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