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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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What’s he that wishes so?
My cousin, Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark’d to fail, we are enow
To see our team in loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God’s will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for silver,
Nor care I who doth mention my net cost;
It yearns me not if men our replica shirts wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honours,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from Oslo.
God’s peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him fly home; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call’d the feast of Stevie.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam’d,
And rouse him at the name of Gerrard.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil taunt Blue neighbours,
Who say “To-morrow is Saint Slippy's Day.”
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say “These wounds I had on this day.”
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember, offsides and advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Stevie the King, Sturridge and Mignolet,
Lallana and Lambert, Ballotelli and Philippe-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb’red.
This story shall the good Red teach his son;
And Stevie's Day shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he Uruguayan or vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in Liverpool now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold small manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Stevie's day.
 
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Just a quick RAWK roundup:

We have one of RAWK's amateur statisticians here, banging the 79% drum. I hope FSG take this view on board when it comes to their decision on Rodgers:

It's much more than that. Statistically, if you dominate the ball against the opposing team you will win the game 79% of the time. This is much, much higher than 60%. Breaking away from the model, if you're only expected to win 60% of the time, in favour of a shorter-term model, is excusable, though ultimately ill advised. Breaking away from a model which historically and statistically gives you a 79% chance to win games is less so and less justifiable.

Your point about the last few games - I believe they are outliers to be honest. This doesn't show how "useless" mere possession is, because if we have a higher possession percentage than the opposing team every league game for 10 years running (380 games) playing the same way, the result will be that we win 79% of them or close to thereabouts. The same logic applies as in, for example, poker variance, where if you make the correct mathematical decisions 100% of the time over 8 online tables for 3 months, for example, you'll end up winning even though short term you may lose some hands that you would have won if you had played based on "gut" feel.

I accept that it's different as football has so many more variables (injuries, morale, loss of form, players needing to be coached, players being asked to play a different way than earlier in the season) than poker, but Brendan's statistical approach to the possession game is imo indeed sound. And if he wants to go back to a formation and an ideal that he believes in then all power to him - I just hope that he doesn't rip it up mid season because of "pressure to get results" and sticks with his preferred style of play throughout next season (38 games is a small sample size but hey we can't ask for the world) and take it from there.

Per aspera ad astra.

TL;DR?

The same logic applies as in, for example, poker variance, where if you make the correct mathematical decisions 100% of the time over 8 online tables for 3 months, for example, you'll end up winning even though short term you may lose some hands that you would have won if you had played based on "gut" feel.

Yeah, because it's the same thing, like.


Next, this lad still thinks Liverpool could have held on to Suarez:

Don't kid yourself, he colud have easily been here for another season. His price would have only gone up.


And the lad who thinks that Rodgers just did too well.

i'm afraid that last season "success" came too early for Rodgers, obviously he wasn't ready for that


And this chap, who has apparently never watched football but knows that everyone else is to blame. Who is everyone? Not exactly sure, but no doubt Chelsea, the refs and the FA are at the head of it:

Why do we go through these runs? Rafael's final season, Kenny's final season, now this season.

Doesn't make any sense to me
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It's almost like everyone involved is complicit in it
 

Quite a few in the lress are beginning to talk about him mismanaging players

@danielstorey85: Poor Lazar Markovic wouldn't be blamed for handing in a transfer request next month. A young £20m prospect completely mismanaged. Negligent.

@RorySmithTimes: @johncrossmirror I think to an extent the recruitment is a red herring. Some of the management of the recruits has been astonishing.
@JacobSteinberg: @RorySmithTimes @johncrossmirror particularly Lambert.
@RorySmithTimes: @JacobSteinberg @johncrossmirror Markovic is the one that gets me. Totally inexplicable.
@johncrossmirror: @RorySmithTimes @JacobSteinberg I'll raise you Lovren. And the handling of contracts... Yes, you're being fair with a year...

This is what I hate about our gutter press. Why weren't they asking questions before his shocking signings became obvious to the world? Now they come out like a bunch of arrogant smart arses when the reality is they were hailing the sentimental signing of Lambo at the time.
 
Just a quick RAWK roundup:

We have one of RAWK's amateur statisticians here, banging the 79% drum. I hope FSG take this view on board when it comes to their decision on Rodgers:



TL;DR?



Yeah, because it's the same thing, like.


Next, this lad still thinks Liverpool could have held on to Suarez:




And the lad who thinks that Rodgers just did too well.




And this chap, who has apparently never watched football but knows that everyone else is to blame. Who is everyone? Not exactly sure, but no doubt Chelsea, the refs and the FA are at the head of it:

And for my next trick, I disappear up my own arsehole.
 
RAWK is a fun read today, especially the Topic: What is better for Brendan's personal growth as a coach? FA Cup or 4th Place? Or the Hull City 1 - Liverpool 0 thread.........Bodgers is toast......
 


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