ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

[deipnosophist]

Aldo, 'we are classier than that' followed by, 'I know what I would do with chelsea guard of honour'

He is the epitome, the apotheosis ,of unintended self parody. And in this regard, he is perfectly representative of the LFC cult. Unintentional pasquinade directed toward themselves is their calling card, their accidental schtick.
Personally, I think Aldo is a gift from the Gods of comedy. I hope he never realises this...

 

[LinekersLegs]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...clause-relating-number-games-play-season.html

Martin Skrtel’s contract talks with Liverpool have hit a snag over a clause relating to the number of games he must play each season. The central defender, who is one of the top earners at the club behind Steven Gerrard and Daniel Sturridge, was thought to be close to agreeing a new deal. Liverpool were confident of wrapping up the contract before the end of the season, but it’s understood Skrtel has to play a high number of games - possibly as many as 80 per cent - to qualify for his full salary.

 

[ScouseBlueBoy]

When Aldo becomes your personal arbiter for 'class and dignity' it's time to kill yourself. Seriously.

 

[davek]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor.../liverpool-fc-transfer-policy-exposed-9189292

So that feller ^^^^^ (the blubbering, sobbing wreck Echo hack at the Crystanbul game), argues that Liverpool are 'not at the top table' because they've fallen into the trap of selling high and then not replacing them with quality...and it's all about H&G and now 'moneyball'.

Liverpool's transfer business in the last 10 seasons shows a net spend though of £174M, so basically he's hiding the fact that Liverpool's managers have been funded more than every other club except for a handful in Britain and Europe in the last decade but they've wasted it on tosh.

Of course, that doesn't fit the cult party line they're the victims of asset stripping and everyone's holding them back.

 

[davek]

Attention! Daniel"Studger"Sturridge has a message for the whole human race:

Just want to let the world know I’ve had a successful operation on my hip today and I want to thank God for allowing that to be possible

What a relief. Hopefully the boat people in the Mediterranean and the survivors of the Nepal earthquake can take comfort from this heartening news.

 

[deipnosophist]

Historically, the Rome altruistic hegemony regressed in 49BC when Julius Caesar's army , the river Rubicon crossed...and republic thenceforth became meglomaniac militaristic empire. Liverpool's Rubicon has well and truly been crossed...their regression/denouement is as similarly and irreversibly underway.


By the bye, the USA currently finds itself in similar Rome-like denouement (socially/morally, financially and politically). I suggest that within half a generation, light hearted banter on a football forum will be the last thing on our minds. My country (NZ) and fellow US empire lapdogs( UK, Canada and Australia) all will get what we deserve

"alea iacta est"...the die is cast

 

[deipnosophist]

...on lighter matters, any updates on Aldo? lol

 

[Boss_Blue]

Historically, the Rome altruistic hegemony regressed in 49BC when Julius Caesar's army , the river Rubicon crossed...and republic thenceforth became militaristic empire. Liverpool's Rubicon has well and truly been crossed...their regression/denouement is as similarly and irreversibly underway.


By the bye, the USA currently finds itself in similar Rome-like denouement (socially/morally, financially and politically). I suggest that within half a generation, light hearted banter on a football forum will be the last thing on our minds. My country (NZ) and fellow US empire lapdogs( UK, Canada and Australia) all will get what we deserve

"alea iacta est"...the die is cast

*starts work on bunker

 

[deipnosophist]

*starts work on bunker

I have land in central Otago...beautiful arable acreage...ALL Evertonians are welcome settlers when the SHTF.

 

[davek]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...clause-relating-number-games-play-season.html

Martin Skrtel’s contract talks with Liverpool have hit a snag over a clause relating to the number of games he must play each season. The central defender, who is one of the top earners at the club behind Steven Gerrard and Daniel Sturridge, was thought to be close to agreeing a new deal. Liverpool were confident of wrapping up the contract before the end of the season, but it’s understood Skrtel has to play a high number of games - possibly as many as 80 per cent - to qualify for his full salary.

Skrtel 'one of Liverpool's top earners'.

Tells you all you need to know about that shower right there in 5 words.

 

[Jacob]

Liverpool should replace Steven Gerrard with Everton midfielder James McCarthy, insists former Reds ace Dietmar Hamann

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...y-insists-former-Reds-ace-Dietmar-Hamann.html

One problem for starters. As McCarthy demonstrated with his recent goal v United, he keeps his balance far too well.

 

[catcherintherye]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor.../liverpool-fc-transfer-policy-exposed-9189292

So that feller ^^^^^ (the blubbering, sobbing wreck Echo hack at the Crystanbul game), argues that Liverpool are 'not at the top table' because they've fallen into the trap of selling high and then not replacing them with quality...and it's all about H&G and now 'moneyball'.

Liverpool's transfer business in the last 10 seasons shows a net spend though of £174M, so basically he's hiding the fact that Liverpool's managers have been funded more than every other club except for a handful in Britain and Europe in the last decade but they've wasted it on tosh.

Of course, that doesn't fit the cult party line they're the victims of asset stripping and everyone's holding them back.

We are going to see more of this. Having a "plan" is fairly sensible from FSG, every club should have a plan, what their mistake is is broadcasting it so publically. They have almost fetishized the idea of recruitment and the "plan" has taken on an almost spiritual level amongst the Cult. It fits hand to glove really. They ask each other "do you still believe in the plan" almost daring each other to reject it and be outed. You could easily replace plan with "god" and it wouldn't sound out of place.

That is an amusing side issue though and not the central problem for them. The problem they really have is the emergence of this "plan" is it gives a perfect excuse for underperforming managers. Salesmen love promising things that will happen in 5-10 years time. it's perfect for them. It guarantees them a job for that length of time and by the end of said period comes people have forgotten what was promised anyway.

I do think we will see more criticism of FSG though. Sooner or later they are going to have to say no. While the kopites have many characteristics of a Cult what they do lack is a blind obedience if they feel they are not getting exactly what they want. It's not going to be long before people reject en masse the plan as it will be synonymous with crap managers like Rodgers. They will demand huge investment in line with Chelsea/City all while bemoaning modern greed and football.

Don't ever be fooled that they have changed their spots. That they have moved from the spoilt me me me child, to a connoisseur of statistics and numbers. They have blind faith in said plan and have liked the idea that they are better than everyone else. When it fails though they will revert to type, cry arsing for a rich owner to come and buy them trophies again.

 

[catcherintherye]

Historically, the Rome altruistic hegemony regressed in 49BC when Julius Caesar's army , the river Rubicon crossed...and republic thenceforth became meglomaniac militaristic empire. Liverpool's Rubicon has well and truly been crossed...their regression/denouement is as similarly and irreversibly underway.


By the bye, the USA currently finds itself in similar Rome-like denouement (socially/morally, financially and politically). I suggest that within half a generation, light hearted banter on a football forum will be the last thing on our minds. My country (NZ) and fellow US empire lapdogs( UK, Canada and Australia) all will get what we deserve

"alea iacta est"...the die is cast

I hate to be a stickler, but he is talking nonsense just there. I don't think he really knows what altruism or hegemony actually mean. If he did he would understand it wouldn't be appropriate to an imperialist, undemocratic, slave-owning society. He'd also know Ceasar did more to address this than anyone else. He's a cretin.

 

[ScouseBlueBoy]

Liverspots FC are on the way down.

When Aldo rubbed the head of Brian Laws he was p*ssing on the Hillsborough dead. The fact that Kopites reveled in it speaks volumes.

For a lot of LFC fans, Hillsborough was the day that getting killed at a football match ceased to be funny.

 

[davek]

We are going to see more of this. Having a "plan" is fairly sensible from FSG, every club should have a plan, what their mistake is is broadcasting it so publically. They have almost fetishized the idea of recruitment and the "plan" has taken on an almost spiritual level amongst the Cult. It fits hand to glove really. They ask each other "do you still believe in the plan" almost daring each other to reject it and be outed. You could easily replace plan with "god" and it wouldn't sound out of place.

That is an amusing side issue though and not the central problem for them. The problem they really have is the emergence of this "plan" is it gives a perfect excuse for underperforming managers. Salesmen love promising things that will happen in 5-10 years time. it's perfect for them. It guarantees them a job for that length of time and by the end of said period comes people have forgotten what was promised anyway.

I do think we will see more criticism of FSG though. Sooner or later they are going to have to say no. While the kopites have many characteristics of a Cult what they do lack is a blind obedience if they feel they are not getting exactly what they want. It's not going to be long before people reject en masse the plan as it will be synonymous with crap managers like Rodgers. They will demand huge investment in line with Chelsea/City all while bemoaning modern greed and football.

Don't ever be fooled that they have changed their spots. That they have moved from the spoilt me me me child, to a connoisseur of statistics and numbers. They have blind faith in said plan and have liked the idea that they are better than everyone else. When it fails though they will revert to type, cry arsing for a rich owner to come and buy them trophies again.

I think 'the plan' of FSG's and the Kopites expectations and tolerance levels converge, but only as long as that means CL football - season-in, season-out.

FSG know that winning PL titles are not part of the demands on them at Anfield, and it doesn't significantly seem to impact on Liverpool's commercial pull domestically or abroad if they dont win the title. So the motive to step it up from that simple task of top four placings isn't really there.

They have the ultimate plan of reconfiguring that stadium and have LFC playing regularly in the CL. That becomes a very attractive entity to sell for a massive return on the £300M they paid for it. For that reason Rodgers is under pressure now and may not be able to survive the summer if/when they fail to grab 4th place.

The problem, it seems to me, with FSG's plan is that though managers are getting backed with transfer war chests, the wage 'restraint' they have in place is causing problems to the successful acquisition of top end players that can make the difference. So there's a contradiction at play there and maybe that makes Rodgers even more vulnerable in that FSG wont ditch the wage structure, they'll seek a manager who can bring in expensive 'second tier' players and make it a success in terms of CL qualification.