Eduardo charged with 'deceiving the ref'

[GhostOfDixie]

I am all for Eduardo getting a ban out of this.

How can people cry about divers and the need to do something about it, and then actually cry when something is finally done.

Sure it may not be enforced equally across the board, but it is a start, and a base to build on.

Wenger is showing his complete lack of class by complaining, when it is CLEAR that his player dived.

Ban the cheats, is what I say, and that especially applies to our players. We are better than to cheat to win. I really would rather us lose then to win by deceit.

Well the bizarre thing going around is that Eduardo dived to avoid being injured. If so, how is that a penalty? If no contact was made, dive or not, it's not a foul, regardless of the possible intent by the keeper.

What else is amazing is that if Wenger had not planted that seed, than nobody would talk about that. Wenger must have spent the past day just dreaming up this rant.

If some people get banned who shouldn't have been, then I'm afraid it's a case of breaking an egg to make an ommelette.

 

[Dylan]

Well the bizarre thing going around is that Eduardo dived to avoid being injured. If so, how is that a penalty? If no contact was made, dive or not, it's not a foul, regardless of the possible intent by the keeper.

What else is amazing is that if Wenger had not planted that seed, than nobody would talk about that. Wenger must have spent the past day just dreaming up this rant.

If some people get banned who shouldn't have been, then I'm afraid it's a case of breaking an egg to make an ommelette.

What puzzles me is, how does falling to the floor, arms flailing, going to prevent an injury?? To me, the thing he should have done if he was actually scared of getting an injury (and in that case, shouldn't be on the field, as he won't be able to give 100%) would be to hurdle the keeper.

Although, I have seen the replay quite a few times, and at no point does it look like going down to avoid injury. He executes a swan-dive, not a perfect one (must be all that time out injured).

Seriously, I can't fathom Wenger arguing this case. He is blatantly lying, and as such nothing the man says can be believed. He has no integrity.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

What puzzles me is, how does falling to the floor, arms flailing, going to prevent an injury?? To me, the thing he should have done if he was actually scared of getting an injury (and in that case, shouldn't be on the field, as he won't be able to give 100%) would be to hurdle the keeper.

Although, I have seen the replay quite a few times, and at no point does it look like going down to avoid injury. He executes a swan-dive, not a perfect one (must be all that time out injured).

Seriously, I can't fathom Wenger arguing this case. He is blatantly lying, and as such nothing the man says can be believed. He has no integrity.

Exactly, Wenger should be brought into disrepute for defending this. If we had known about this tactic we could have got Duncan Ferguson's red card against Scharner overturned, on the grounds of self-defence.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

What puzzles me is, how does falling to the floor, arms flailing, going to prevent an injury?? To me, the thing he should have done if he was actually scared of getting an injury (and in that case, shouldn't be on the field, as he won't be able to give 100%) would be to hurdle the keeper.

Although, I have seen the replay quite a few times, and at no point does it look like going down to avoid injury. He executes a swan-dive, not a perfect one (must be all that time out injured).

Seriously, I can't fathom Wenger arguing this case. He is blatantly lying, and as such nothing the man says can be believed. He has no integrity.

Exactly right. This whole avoiding injury thing is complete tosh. The Celtic goalie wasn't coming at him like Schumacher for goodness sake.

 

[Dylan]

Exactly, Wenger should be brought into disrepute for defending this. If we had known about this tactic we could have got Duncan Ferguson's red card against Scharner overturned, on the grounds of self-defence.

How I would wish to see Wneger charged in all this. He deserves it. Especially after admitting he bold-faces lies to the press about penalty descisions involving his players. The man has no integrity and wouldn't last one second in the real world, where a man's intergrity is essential to be successful.

Exactly right. This whole avoiding injury thing is complete tosh. The Celtic goalie wasn't coming at him like Schumacher for goodness sake.

Can't see the vid.....at work and Youtube isone of those 'unproductive' websites I am being saved from :/

 

[neville]

Fergie saw this coming another stroke of genius

Thats why he sold Ronaldo

 

[ART]

Just seen Wenger having a moan about Eduardo and uefa. My question to him woud be is he prepared to look at the so called foul again live on SSN and show me and the world where the contact was. Put up or shut up.

 

[gkpaul]

Ive always wanted to see this kind of retrospective punishment for diving. Its ruining the game. Stephen Gerrard touched on it in his book then hypocritically does it all the time.

What I would love to see is players questioned about it by TV interviewers after a game. Make them stand up and explain why they did it to the people who pay to watch them. Its cheating at the end of the day, no other word for it.

And to read he was supposed to have been jumping out the way to prevent injury is just bullsh!t. Why did he straight away appeal for a pen as soon as he hit the floor. If he was no cheat he would have got up and said "ref, thats not a pen I was trying to get out the way." But he didnt, he knew what he was doing, Wenger knew what he was doing as well as the whole world who were watching. Also, at the end of the day if he is still that worried about being injured then he is not ready to be playing. People cant be expected to treat him differently on the pitch because he has had a bad injury in the past.

Well done UEFA, I hope this is the way things will go from now on.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Stephen Gerrard touched on it in his book then hypocritically does it all the time.

Kopite!

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Arsenal fans and Darren Gough are saying that Eduardo jumped out of the way of the keeper so he wouldn't get his leg broken again.

If he is jumping away, then why is it a penalty?

Gough was also saying that just because no contact was made doesn't mean that it wouldn't have been made if Eduardo had not jumped out of the way, (or dived, or cheated, to those who know what cheating is). So basically he was saying that it was a penalty regardless of whether or not he was touched.

Unbelievable level of delusion by some people.

Say what you like about Adrian Durham, he makes sense.

I do believe its actually in the official laws of the game that a free kick (and therefor penalty) can be awarded for "jumping at an opponent". In other words if you attempt to make a tackle which involves that and it makes the player lose control of the ball it is a foul regardless of whether any contact is made.

So there possibly could be a slight chance thats why the ref gave the penalty, although its blatantly obvious that Eduardo dived to win the penalty as opposed to jumping out the way and letting the ref award it for the above mentioned reasons.

Of course its good if UEFA are going to clamp down on cheaters in the game, but it should of been done a long time ago instead of now singleling out one player after ignoring lots others. And it needs to be enforced across the board.

Is potentially opening a can of worms that could cause some big problems.

It will probably go the way of the whole respect stuff though.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

I do believe its actually in the official laws of the game that a free kick (and therefor penalty) can be awarded for "jumping at an opponent". In other words if you attempt to make a tackle which involves that and it makes the player lose control of the ball it is a foul regardless of whether any contact is made.

So there possibly could be a slight chance thats why the ref gave the penalty, although its blatantly obvious that Eduardo dived to win the penalty as opposed to jumping out the way and letting the ref award it for the above mentioned reasons.

Of course its good if UEFA are going to clamp down on cheaters in the game, but it should of been done a long time ago instead of now singleling out one player after ignoring lots others. And it needs to be enforced across the board.

Is potentially opening a can of worms that could cause some big problems.

It will probably go the way of the whole respect stuff though.

Well of course. If someone flies at someone with a roundhouse kick, misses the guy, it's still needs to be penalised.

However, the keeper has come out to save the ball, not to upend the player. And Darren Gough is a clown for thinking otherwise.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Hahaha oh dear.

Ibrahimovic just goes down very very easy with minimal if any contact in the penalty area in UEFAs big showpiece, Champions League winners VS UEFA cup winners with Platini and other high ranking officals in attendance.

Lets see if he gets a ban shall we.

Somehow i doubt it.

 

[degsys black eye]

Which was my point in the first place. If one gets charged, charge the lot of them, but they won't!!

 

[Bundy]

Good I saw that incident and it made my blood boil, I woulda punched him if I was the goalie.

 

[degsys black eye]

The thing is, this incident is going to happen countless times across world football this weekend, the forward rushes in on goal, the keeper flies off his line and slides at forwards feet to get ball, forward gets to the ball before keeper, touchers it past him and takes a tumble, contact or not ref gives the pen.

Are UEFA/FIFA gonna take action on every penalty incident across world football?

Everyones got an opinion, but ultimately it lies with the big wigs and they have IMO jumped in without thinking it through.

A lot of [Poor language removed] will hit the proverbial over this.