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These groups are never representative of a fanbase. They don't even try to be, it's just a bunch of self important fools wanting to be self important.

The best chance at being 'representative' would be having a completely random lottery of all supporters, but even if that was somehow possible it's not perfect by any stretch.

And quickly the power would get to them and they'll protect their own interests if the club hand them any sort of privileges. They then just become a group of Sharpies etc.
 
And quickly the power would get to them and they'll protect their own interests if the club hand them any sort of privileges. They then just become a group of Sharpies etc.

They already are because that's what they're seeking in the first instance.

Which, of course, makes the whole thing completely pointless as they are representing themselves, no one else.
 

These groups are never representative of a fanbase. They don't even try to be, it's just a bunch of self important fools wanting to be self important.

The best chance at being 'representative' would be having a completely random lottery of all supporters, but even if that was somehow possible it's not perfect by any stretch.

Bang on there. Any group or individual who claims to be representative of such a huge swathe of individual people as the fanbase of a PL club always seems a touch egotistical.

It's a bit like the "fan owned" clubs like FC United of Manchester where it seems to be a power trip for a few individuals who feel the need to run their own club rather than take their support to the already countless non-league clubs right on their doorstep.
 
Bang on there. Any group or individual who claims to be representative of such a huge swathe of individual people as the fanbase of a PL club always seems a touch egotistical.

It's a bit like the "fan owned" clubs like FC United of Manchester where it seems to be a power trip for a few individuals who feel the need to run their own club rather than take their support to the already countless non-league clubs right on their doorstep.

Take a look at the owner of this site as an example.

Every season for the past three years, he's ran an Everton fan survey. They're all here: https://www.grandoldteam.com/everton-fan-survey/

All he did was send that survey out, asked fans to fill it in, and presented it as is.

He didn't (I presume) send it to the club demanding changes as a self-appointed 'ambassador' of the fans. He just used the platform to ask questions and published them as is with no agenda attached. If fans or the club want to use it for any reason, they can. It's right there. That's the way to do it.

Compare that to these buffoons - "The doc has been submitted to the club for their consideration". That's nice. Can the fans see it to? No? Oh. Can we at least know who you are? No, not really. Oh. Do you get elected to represent the fan- no. Oh.

Pointless.
 

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