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Euro2020 Knock Out Rounds

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No way Southgate rests anyone who he deems important. Even players on yellow cards like Maguire, Rice and Phillips.

The team is likely to be:

Pickford; Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw; Rice, Phillips, Mount; Sterling, Sancho, Kane
 
Cool_Blue said:
Re your last paragraph...... I think his unfortunate injury could scupper Italy’s chances.
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Not sure about that as they have other talented players and are the form team so far. But it is a big blow to them for sure. He also linked up great with Insigne and being missing could effect his game too.
 
chicoazul said:
My principles are more important than my nationality so tonight I shall be reluctantly wanting Ukraine to prevail so those that boo the knee most are no longer in this tournament. Good luck to the decent fans.
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The racists from the UK won't be allowed entry into Italy.

The nice ex pats can go and they won't boo the taking of the knee.

Unlucky @billy bluestar
 

Drico said:
I don't agree that they ruined it. Why should we blame a team with few playing resources playing in a way that gives them a better chance against countries with far richer resources to pick from? If you want to blame anybody, blame the Spanish, French, Czechs, and Portuguese who had far greater options and still couldn't eliminate them. Otto Rehhagel was a great coach. He outsmarted coaches with far more to play with. Greece winning Euro 2004 was like a Tyrrell beating Ferrari in Formula 1.
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Think that was a negative football mate, if I was Greek, I would be proud as they did not have any attacking weapons, so they overachieved with decent tactics. But as a neutral, tournament suffered a lot with that ecole of 0-1.
 
Was fed up half way through the game after the Eriksen collapse of all of the coverage and corny sentimental coverage. They don't half milk it... suppose they have to fill the air somehow. The lad got better! Stop with the filtered montages over somber music FFS
 
Sheva's teamtalk tonight should just be 'Хлопці, це Англія' and that'll be enough for them.
 
chicoazul said:
My principles are more important than my nationality so tonight I shall be reluctantly wanting Ukraine to prevail so those that boo the knee most are no longer in this tournament. Good luck to the decent fans.
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That's baffling mate!

You want your own country's football team (which is of mixed race) to lose because a certain section of the English fanbase is booing the taking of the knee?

I agree it's despicable to boo as we have black players in our team who will think the booing is directed at them but I really do believe that it isn't as simple as saying that those who boo are all automatically racist. There are a lot of issues at play...

I have two mixed-race children and am sensitive to and worry a lot for them about racism myself, believe me, but I dislike the "taking of the knee" because I believe it is being imposed on football by forces whose real agenda is not inclusivity but the polarization of an increasingly polarized society. They are exporting this neo far left/right culture war into football now and that has the potential for inflaming the situation rather than defusing it IMO.

People are so distracted by tribal identity politics these days that they ignore the fact that black people died in massive disproportion to whites from a Covid virus that our government/media not only didn't seem to lift a finger to prevent but almost seemed to facilitate. Instead of the people holding these criminally negligent politicians to account the public is instead turned against itself in a ridiculous culture war which is really just aimed at dividing people against each other IMO.

This is what Louie Zaha said about the issue:

"It's becoming something that we just do now,"

Zaha continued: "It feels like we are isolating ourselves from these things that are not working anyway."

Last week, Zaha questioned the purpose of taking a knee before the start of matches while speaking to the On The Judy podcast.

He also said: "Why must I even wear Black Lives Matter on the back of my top to show you that we matter? This is all degrading stuff."

Speaking at the FT Business of Football summit, he added: "Growing up, my parents let me know I should be proud to be black. We should stand tall.

"With taking a knee, sometimes people forget we have to do it. It is becoming something we just do. That is not enough for me."

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Clearly then not everybody who disagrees with taking the knee is a racist, and many are suspicious of the automatic persecution of anyone who expresses his opposition to a political gesture of this kind in football, as a racist! There is hatefulness and intolerance in this behaviour as well as it's a refusal to even hear out the other person's political opinions without just screaming accusations at the person.

But I just don't get why you would not support your own country. We have one of the nicest managers and a mixed-race team, and because of a few morons in the crowd, you are going to deprive yourself of the joy of a memorable cup tie for political reasons?

The whole world has gone mad!
 

Wolf8312 said:
That's baffling mate!

You want your own country's football team (which is of mixed race) to lose because a certain section of the English fanbase is booing the taking of the knee?

I agree it's despicable to boo as we have black players in our team who will think the booing is directed at them but I really do believe that it isn't as simple as saying that those who boo are all automatically racist. There are a lot of issues at play...

I have two mixed-race children and am sensitive to and worry a lot for them about racism myself, believe me, but I dislike the "taking of the knee" because I believe it is being imposed on football by forces whose real agenda is not inclusivity but the polarization of an increasingly polarized society. They are exporting this neo far left/right culture war into football now and that has the potential for inflaming the situation rather than defusing it IMO.

People are so distracted by tribal identity politics these days that they ignore the fact that black people died in massive disproportion to whites from a Covid virus that our government/media not only didn't seem to lift a finger to prevent but almost seemed to facilitate. Instead of the people holding these criminally negligent politicians to account the public is instead turned against itself in a ridiculous culture war which is really just aimed at dividing people against each other IMO.

This is what Louie Zaha said about the issue:

"It's becoming something that we just do now,"

Zaha continued: "It feels like we are isolating ourselves from these things that are not working anyway."

Last week, Zaha questioned the purpose of taking a knee before the start of matches while speaking to the On The Judy podcast.

He also said: "Why must I even wear Black Lives Matter on the back of my top to show you that we matter? This is all degrading stuff."

Speaking at the FT Business of Football summit, he added: "Growing up, my parents let me know I should be proud to be black. We should stand tall.

"With taking a knee, sometimes people forget we have to do it. It is becoming something we just do. That is not enough for me."

____

Clearly then not everybody who disagrees with taking the knee is a racist, and many are suspicious of the automatic persecution of anyone who expresses his opposition to a political gesture of this kind in football, as a racist! There is hatefulness and intolerance in this behaviour as well as it's a refusal to even hear out the other person's political opinions without just screaming accusations at the person.

But I just don't get why you would not support your own country. We have one of the nicest managers and a mixed-race team, and because of a few morons in the crowd, you are going to deprive yourself of the joy of a memorable cup tie for political reasons?

The whole world has gone mad!
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Never heard of him
 
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