Euro2020 Knock Out Rounds

[zukai12_]

You should have an ID check for social media like Twitter.

Knock it on the head soon enough.

But that then leads to a load of other issues

For example, a gay kid in say Saudi Arabia or Iran would be at major risk if they couldnt have an anonymous account

 

[wandyr79]

Good point made in the Athletic analysis of the game that this is the third big game Southgate has seen an early lead sat on and then pegged back mid-way through the second haf as a result of defending deep:

Against Croatia in the SF in Russia in 2018 (pegged back in the 67th minute)
Against Holland in the SF of the Euro Nations in 2019 (pegged back in the 73rd minute)
Against Italy in the Euro 2020 final (pegged back in the 68th minute)

There's no composure or confidence in the team to retain the ball and keep playing. That has to come from the manager.

The penalties are a distraction, even though they're getting the publicity right now.

100% agree with this. During that second half we showed that there was nothing learned from the Croatia game.

 

[Toast]

It's not even subtle

 

[coollino]

southgate's 'German invasion' comment was extraordinary. what is the best he expected to happen when he said that.

 

[Toast]

southgate's 'German invasion' comment was extraordinary. what is the best he expected to happen when he said that.

I don’t know what audience he was trying to get onside with that comment.

He had all the support he could have wished for already.

Maybe that was his own comment for once, not with press expert advice ? Who knows.

 

[BlueToff]

I don't think Southgate got much right as opposed to not making ridiculous mistakes.

England progressed due to a combination of a fairly easy draw and some very talented players.

I give Southgate pretty much zero credit. He's simply extremely lucky IMO to be in the right place at the right time.

Hmm, fair enough. I think he was proved right in that Germany game although I do say that with the caveat that the game was very much on a knife-edge and could have gone very differently.

I'd actually say he was proved very much right in the first half yesterday. Trippier had the run of the right for the first half-an-hour. We didn't make the most of it though.

Southgate wants to control the chaos in games. But he has to realise, surely, that that's not where England's strengths lay. It's also ultimately not sustainable across multiple tournaments - as France and Portugal have proved.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

We do have a complete midfielder in Jack Grealish.

The moment he came on last night, Italy dropped deeper and we started to retain possession again and as usual he drew foul after foul.

Southgate just didn`t have the bottle to either start him or bring him on earlier.

I would classify him as an attacking midfielder. Southgate won’t play him for full games due to his own concerns around the defensive side of his game.

I’d say Verratti showed us last night what a complete midfielder is.

 

[Papa Shango]

Why wasn't VAR used for the Georginho tackle. It wasn't even mentioned. I've seen reds given for less.

It was a complete accident.

There always seems to be an excuse.

 

[davek]

I don’t know what audience he was trying to get onside with that comment.

He had all the support he could have wished for already.

Maybe that was his own comment for once, not with press expert advice ? Who knows.

He'd begun to pivot away from anything that could pin him down as a 'progressive' to a position where he could step out of the so called culture wars and become an Establishment figure.

He basically shat it late on.

 

[sageyefc]

It's not even subtle

It’s always the ones with a flag in their bio or twitter handle. The St George’s flag is the international call sign for the racist gammon

 

[toffee matt]

I don’t know what audience he was trying to get onside with that comment.

He had all the support he could have wished for already.

Maybe that was his own comment for once, not with press expert advice ? Who knows.

He’s not really that left wing judging on what he’s said in the past tbf

In that essay thing he did before the tournament everyone went on about he was harping on about the Jubilee and the war a little.

 

[Drico]

As a neutal, oh, alright, as an Irishman, I thought England had a real chance to put the game to bed by half time. They had the early goal, Italy were shell-shocked, and England were riding a huge wave of momentum. This was the time to be brave and go for the jugular. Instead, they backed off and Italy got a foothold. The moment had passed by the interval.

There was still no guarantee that Italy would equalise, mind. This is not one of their greatest sides - there is no Paolo Rossi, Roberto Baggio, or Andrea Pirlo, but it is a side that plays to its strengths and England ceded that opportunity to them rather meekly.

The regret for England is that they never pressed home their advantage - and they had the players to do that. We didn't see enough of Sterling running at the wonderful, but slow, Italian central defensive duo. On top of that is the realisation that there will hardly ever be a more favourable set of circumstances for England to win a trophy. Six games at home, a soft half of the draw, European superpowers like Germany at the bottom of their curve, the rest together in the opposite half... It was there to be won.

England will go to Qatar as one of the contenders, but Spain will be stronger, France will have had the complacency knocked out of them, Argentina and Italy are strengthened as continental champions, Hansi Flick will have 16 months to get the best out of a talented but mismanaged German generation, and the likes of Belgium, Portugal, and Brazil will lurk with intent. It will not get any easier for an English generation that will also improve but will now carry scars it didn't have prior to last night.

Commiserations to the many decent English fans who, thanks to the actions of a large minority and an environment seeded by an extremist government, have not been able to take as much carefree joy as they should have been able to from the genuine achievements of their national team. Your team did you proud.

 

[Sharpies volley]

It was a complete accident.

There always seems to be an excuse.

The fact that it was an accident does matter. There was a match last week I'm not sure who it was where the ad clearly won the ball but his momentum took him through his opponent. VAR checked it and he was sent off, that was an accident. And I'm not using it as an excuse. Italy where the better team and deserved to win the game. I was just asking the question.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

"These England players should be lauded as heroes" lol

 

[Sharpies volley]

The fact that it was an accident does matter. There was a match last week I'm not sure who it was where the ad clearly won the ball but his momentum took him through his opponent. VAR checked it and he was sent off, that was an accident. And I'm not using it as an excuse. Italy where the better team and deserved to win the game. I was just asking the question.

That should have read. Doesn't matter.