I thought another one was Bertie Auld who has recently passed away. I think it was when he played for Birmingham.
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Everton 1969/1970 or Everton 1984/1985 Which Squad Was Better?
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Not according to his biography, but, who knows, Jack had a habit of playing to the gallery once he started doing the after-dinner speaking circuit and having biographies ghosted, and would often tell slightly different audiences, slightly different versions of events.
Wouldn't surprise me if it was Hutchinson, he was a nasty piece of work and as a centre forward would have tangled with the giraffe many times.
Tennessee Blue Mike
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I never cared for Tommy Smith glad Johnny took care of him. My Favorite was Joe Royle saying years later Ron Yeats always thought he had our Joe in his back pocket until he didn't. I got sick of my so called friends at school going gaga over Rodger the Dodger Hunt that went quiet when Westy showed up at School assembly one morning. Made my day.
I can't go back to '28, '33, or '39, But I can go back to the '63 team or the team of the Century. We were better than Man United (Law, Best & Charlton. We were better than the Spurs Double winning side
who were truly marvellous.
I could fill the page with true adoration.
who were truly marvellous.
I could fill the page with true adoration.
Think you will find it was Billy Bingham when Carlisle did the double over us
terryefc
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Think Hutchinson was their winger - no 11 - with the windmill throw ins. Never struck me as dirty - but like Moggsy wouldn't take any prisoners. Osgood was their CF.
Osgood was their number nine for sure, but, he was one of those roving ball playing centre forwards, Hutchinson was normally number eleven, I think, as you say he was the long throw merchant, but he play d mainly down the middle. He was very handy with his elbows.
I think the Hutchinson one was a carry over from the Cup Final Replay at Old Trafford, it got really tasty.
I went to that and all the usual suspects from Leeds diving in at anything above grass level, Charlton Included.
He telegraphed one 'tackle' so much that a Chelsea player...and it was probably Hutchinson had time to jump up in the air and come down with both feet, with malice aforethought on his leg
Scenes ensued.
terryefc
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I heard recently a current ref watched a screening of the first game and he reckons he would have sent off 11 players. A few years ago someone like Dermot Gallagher did it first and he said he'd have sent off 21 of the 22 players. Good times.
Toffeelover
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Even the GKs, what does that tell you.
bcblue1878
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One of my all time favourite players! Apologies for repeating the story, but when I was 10 he came on a surprise visit to our house one night! He was visiting our local Friday night boys club, and I missed out because I’d just come out of hospital after a dental op! The blokes at the boys club told him I was a massive Evertonian and wasn’t there because of the op - first thing I knew was a knock on our front door and in walks Johnny MorrisseyAt a function many years ago and Jack Charlton was the guest speaker, which at the time filled me with horror.
However, Big jack was a very accomplished narrator and kept us all in our seats and received quite thunderous applause after his address.
The highlight of his memories, he recalled, after being questioned about his infamous 'black book'. Did it exist? Indeed it did came the reply from Jack and related to one incident regarding our very own Johnny Morrisey.
Jack, a tough boy in his own right, was bringing the ball out of defence when he felt his world come to a complete and painful full stop. He looked up, and standing over him was Mogsy who calmly said, "Put that in your f*****g little black book". Upon which, Johnny accepted his booking and carried on with the game.
Johnny was a fast and fearless winger with much trickery and did NOT take any crap from anyone.
! Couldnt believe it!
Cork Evertonian
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In terms of success the team of the 80's, is the undisputed winner. But that wasn't the question i asked. The question was, which team was better on an individual basis? Who would win, in a game between the 1970 and 1985 team?
The team of 1970 probably had the greatest midfield combination in our history, in the holy trinity and Johnny Morrisey. The 1970 team got robbed against Panathinaikos in the european cup as well.
My god a european cup final of the holy trinity Everton team, and the great Ajax team of Cruyff Keizer and co would have been an awesome occasion! In terms of the individual quality of both squads, then i think it's hard to decide. The replies from the people who saw both teams, would confirm this. I actually am convinced now, that there is no clear answer to the question i asked.
JordanianEmbassy
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Certainly HK lesving after he has built such a great team is both a massive factor in the decline, and somewhat hard to fathom given that only a year earlier he had been talking about trying to maintain Evertons success over a long period of time.
It is a strange one isn't it... but have you read his book? He says that the European ban hit him hard, and he was actually keen on a move to Barcelona a year before but it didn't come off. Apparently there was a rumour that they were going to sack Terry Venables but it didn't happen.
That info actually puts a different angle on the sale of Lineker to Barcelona but I'll leave you all to think about that one!
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