Everton 3-3 Liverpool. 23rd Nov @ 12.45.

[davek]

Ok, just joining the thread now as I watched the game completely sober cos me beloved Ma had her car booked in for its NCT (MOT) at 2.20 p.m. God Bless her she's 87 and was all apologetic about it.

Overall a fair result, a cracking real Derby and in fairness to the ref, was intelligently arbitrated.

I watched the first half with a pot of tea and surrounded by 50-50 crowd in a D18 pub.

Everyone agreed about Everton's lovely movement but awful defending. The stamp on Baines which ultimately put him out of the game was not mentioned by the commentators.

Miralles was giving serious payback to that awful person who had put him out of the game for weeks a couple of derbies ago - yes he got away with it but Suarez played the full 90 without any genuine problem - his theatrical limping and dying were followed by rapid movement all over the pitch for the rest of the game. The marks on his leg looked to me more like teeth marks??

Be clear, we know he is a brilliant player with an enormous workrate - but he is just awful when he appears to be so badly injured and then recovers amazingly.

Suarez got Rodwell sent off for nothing a couple of years ago and he scraped his studs down the back of Distin's calf last season.

This is the first time in living memory that EFC got some leniency from refs in the derby.

As for Saint Steven Gerrard's elbow - it has the status of an English relic that cannot be criticised under any circumstances.

If that had been Shay Coleman, James McCarthy or last season Fellaini on Gerrard it would have been a straight red - no question - 3 match ban etc -. Gerrard was not even booked. FFS

At 1-2 I was in the car listening to 5Live, waiting for the lad to come for the car to do the test and praying for an equaliser - Next thing its 2-2 and I roared that we could go on and win it...... to myself sitting in a f***ing Micra.

The 3rd goal went in just as the NCT lad arrived at the door to take the car and I jumped out and hugged him!!!!! He said "FFS I hope the car passes too".

I legged it to the nearest pub to get the last 7 minutes and my stomach wrenched as Sturridge scored a spectacular looking, but again poorly defended goal.

The rest of the game was hand-biting stuff.... but as I said, overall I have to say it was a fair result.

Lots of "what ifs"?? for both sides, but I have been shaking hands with Kopites all evening as we all agree that this was a throw back to the great Mersey Derbies of pre- Heysel.

Final note - the Ma's 13 year old Micra passed the NCT with flying colours.


Oh its a Grand Old Team to Play For......."

Not enough has been said about that. It was a scandalous stamp. The intent was there for anyone to see.

 

[kev]

From RAWK

Is the absolute perfect word to describe them. A vile, weird bunch. I know we feel a bit dejected because we should have won, although they could say the same, I'm ****ing made up we snatched a point at the death. They were minutes away from absolute delirium, only for Sturridge to take it away from them. They make me quite sick, to be honest. I had a look on their main forum ( I won't name it ) and it made me pity them actually, not necessarily hate them. We really are their world.

Everything I seen online and from blues I know in general has been absolute bile-fueled belligerence. Wall pusher this, murderer that, references to Gerrard's personal life, wishing a career-ending injury on Suarez or even death. [B]They can't even mention our name[/B] or our stadium name. I say this after most derbies and I'll say it again, because maybe the time in between the games makes me forget, but they really are a disgusting set of fans. There are good supporters in there, no doubt, and the club has been great regarding Hillsborough. But I find it's the same fans who want justice also maim us over Heysel. Again, not all, but from experience.

I don't know if I've stepped over the line in anything I've said, and it's a sober post. But it's just how I feel. Maybe if they lose their inferiority complex over us the vileness will stop. Are our fans perfect? No, and this isn't a game of fan top-trumps. But put it this way, I'm glad we only play them twice a year. A fortnight worth of this ****e makes me detest humanity.

"They can't even mention our name" Ha Ha You couldn't make it up

 

[centralTon]

That Sturridge goal burst my coupon for over £600 today. Hrmm!!!

 

[Fearthainn]

Rodgers:

"You don’t see Luis staying down very often, so I knew it was bad."



Had to read it a few times before I could believe it.

 

[Bluerover]

Not enough has been said about that. It was a scandalous stamp. The intent was there for anyone to see.

Dave,

This is typical.

Mind you the crap coverage that I saw from BT didn't surprise me.

How long will Suar** be injured ? NIL How long was Kev injured? Weeks. How long could Distin have been injured?? Lucky How long was Rodwell banned?

Seriously, the limping around that Suarez did in the first half yet played at full pelt all match sickens me. Why can't he be an honest international example of what I can say to my offspring???

I am seeing kids of 10 years of age aping this sh**e evry week.

 

[BiggyRat]

Morning...back again. Just watched the highlights & had a thought on the goal through the wall. (sorry if it's been covered to death)

It looked, to me, like Pienaar left the gap to tempt a shot through it & then failed to shut the gap down when the offer was graciously accepted. Does anyone else think that's what he was thinking?

 

[stevo27]

Family friend and a big blue died after leaving the match today.

Went everywhere watching us.

RIP Mick.

Puts all the stuff from today into perspective, my condolences to you and your friend's family

 

[Sensei]

i'm sorry but i'm not having any ****ging off of Distin after that match...

ok so for the Allen opportunity him AND Barry were at fault...

but no one mentions him coming belting up right midfield to sure up an uncertain loose ball and turning it into attack and then only seconds later being in a beautiful position to stifle a i think Henderson attack... the guy played with his heart...

only two players dissapointed me .......Baines...he's no longer interested...and Delefelou too greedy

 

[SunKing]

Morning...back again. Just watched the highlights & had a thought on the goal through the wall. (sorry if it's been covered to death)

It looked, to me, like Pienaar left the gap to tempt a shot through it & then failed to shut the gap down when the offer was graciously accepted. Does anyone else think that's what he was thinking?

I'm sure I've seen Pienaar do this a few times before, I think he likes to stand aside and slightly back so he can run forward as the fk taker runs to try and get beyond the wall and an extra advantage on the block without ref getting onto it (if that makes sense??). Either way it left a gap in the wall which suarez duly slotted through.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Morning...back again. Just watched the highlights & had a thought on the goal through the wall. (sorry if it's been covered to death)

It looked, to me, like Pienaar left the gap to tempt a shot through it & then failed to shut the gap down when the offer was graciously accepted. Does anyone else think that's what he was thinking?

Yeah, there had to be some reason why it was lined up how it was, seemed odd that he stood a foot to the left.

 

[SunKing]

i'm sorry but i'm not having any ****ging off of Distin after that match...

ok so for the Allen opportunity him AND Barry were at fault...

but no one mentions him coming belting up right midfield to sure up an uncertain loose ball and turning it into attack and then only seconds later being in a beautiful position to stifle a i think Henderson attack... the guy played with his heart...

only two players dissapointed me .......Baines...he's no longer interested...and Delefelou too greedy

I do agree, you cannot knock Distin's heart and commitment for the club, clearly cares a lot. He's just prone to act's of stupidity every now and again that get punished against good opposition. The fk he gave away at the end was criminal and not the sort of thing you expect from someone of that experience. I seem to find I panic in these 'bigger' games when the ball is in and around distin more than anyone else. Maybe that's just me though. Agree about Baines n all, his head is in manchester.

 

[paulbefc]

i'm sorry but i'm not having any ****ging off of Distin after that match...

ok so for the Allen opportunity him AND Barry were at fault...

but no one mentions him coming belting up right midfield to sure up an uncertain loose ball and turning it into attack and then only seconds later being in a beautiful position to stifle a i think Henderson attack... the guy played with his heart...

only two players dissapointed me .......Baines...he's no longer interested...and Delefelou too greedy

I agree. I thought his work rate was outstanding and he had a lot on his plate today in fairness. I was watching him wondering how the actual heck is he 35 years of age.

Another Moyes gem there.

 

[blaze]

The physio turned the ref there, No question

See his face when he tells him its a red, Jesus who do they think they are

Definitely, it's the worst thing he could have done, there's every chance he would have been shown the red but as soon as the physio runs over and starts telling him in his ear it's a red and our players start questioning wtf is going on he was put in an awkward position of looking like he was told what to give by the Liverpool bench (as you say, the look on his face when it happens says everything).

Dowd should have went a step further and told the physio to **** off to the stands for trying to interfere with the game and influence his decision.

 

[dixe]

i'm sorry but i'm not having any ****ging off of Distin after that match...

ok so for the Allen opportunity him AND Barry were at fault...

but no one mentions him coming belting up right midfield to sure up an uncertain loose ball and turning it into attack and then only seconds later being in a beautiful position to stifle a i think Henderson attack... the guy played with his heart...

only two players dissapointed me .......Baines...he's no longer interested...and Delefelou too greedy

Also loved the way he bounced straight over to Gerrard after he went in with the elbow

 

[Chang Elephant]

Dowd should have went a step further and told the physio to **** off to the stands for trying to interfere with the game and influence his decision.

Could not believe their physio. Probably the first time ever we've seen a physio enter the pitch and try to advise the ref on what he should be doing. WTF is it with their sense of entitlement.....