Everton could crown Liverpool as champions

[bluemangroup]

It doesn't eclipse it; it's a necessary part of it.

Yeah a rivalry needs animosity. I don't wish them success, not at all but I wouldn't and haven't welled up when they pick up a trophy. It makes you sound unstable.

 

[deipnosophist]

I think Everton is on the cusp of a wonderful new era of success and accolades. There is nothing but massive optimism that radiates from this scribes being.

Having said that, I have a bad feeling about the Fulham game....

 

[Tubey]

Yeah a rivalry needs animosity. I don't wish them success, not at all but I wouldn't and haven't welled up when they pick up a trophy. It makes you sound unstable.

Haha nah, not at all. I'd cry if Everton won something which is the opposite end of the spectrum for me, and I don't think that'd make me unstable!

Bizarrely, I wish them some success, in that there'd be something genuinely missing if they weren't in the same league.

 

[chicoazul]

For their CL win I sent 23 texts at half time, from Spain, to the kopite mates and family I had in my arl Nokia. Obviously cost a small packet but I considered it value for money while half cut at the time.

Obviously after they won on penalties my phone beeped a lot and was a bit sweary.

Win the league and I will get similar. It simply CANNOT be allowed to happen.

 

[nigelcoyb]

Yeah a rivalry needs animosity. I don't wish them success, not at all but I wouldn't and haven't welled up when they pick up a trophy. It makes you sound unstable.

Passionate, devoted - not unstable.

 

[tommye]

 

[LinekersLegs]

As someone on here said it probably has a lot to do with age and location but probably more so with age as relations certainly used to be better between the two sets of fans.

However I grew up in the 80s whe both teams were great, the losses to them didn't seem to hurt any worse but the wins sure did feel sweeter as we didn't just beat a rival but a genuinely good team. I loved that the derby was the highlight game of the season, not just for us two sets of fans but the league as a whole.

With the decline in both clubs in the following years it could look at bit like two drunk old blokes going at in the pub carpark - just sad.

 

[bluemangroup]

Passionate, devoted - not unstable.

No. I'm sorry. Being passionate about Everton, fine yeah, get that. Passionately hating Liverpool as much as you love Everton is bitter and unhealthy and very unstable.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Yeah a rivalry needs animosity. I don't wish them success, not at all but I wouldn't and haven't welled up when they pick up a trophy. It makes you sound unstable.

Unstable's harsh mate, overly passionaote maybe, but I can understand where Tubey's coming from. That was a very bad night, made worse by the fact that they came back from three down. I was totally gutted but kept my hankie in my pocket

 

[pablo 1878]

So you weren't arsed in the slightest, as an Evertonian, when they won the Champions League in 2005? Genuine question, just interested to hear the answer.

This might surprise you but, just because I prioritise Everton doing well over the RS failing, this doesn't mean I applaud a RS victory

There is no comparison. They won the CL in 2005, as a bluenose it was as grim as it gets, but was also out of my hands. This is a thread in which a hypothetical dilemma is posed

 

[EFC Si]

I do care to an extent, that's not the issue here at all.

It's when it's to the detriment of our own team is when there's an issue.

Too many people caring what other people think and fearing that there'll be some banter they can't handle.

So the media will go crazy about LFC winning the league - so what? It's not like LFC are ignored now is it? BT Sport is practically the LFC channel, and MOTD has at least one ex-Red as a pundit per show.They employ over 10 different ex-Reds over the course of a season.

If they win the league, nothing is really going to change. Do I want it to happen? No of course not, they are our rivals and I can't stand them. But given this magical hypothetical choice - do I want my own club, the one I care about, the one I follow all over the country watching, paying over £1000 a year supporting, do I want them to SUFFER, just so that the other lot don't win the league? Or do I want Everton to achieve their best possible league finish, qualify for the CL, and to hell with whatever the other lot win?

It is a no brainer, there is no debate. If people think there's a debate, they are caring too much about what other people think, and not caring enough about what is good for Everton Football Club!

Sums it up perfectly to me.

 

[deipnosophist]

As usual LinekerLegs, you have astutely and eloquently articulated hearts of the matter.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Pretty much this really. Again, levels.

I cried myself to sleep the night they won the Champions League - Everton finishing in a half-decent position in the league meant very little in comparison.

Someone saying they'd hand Gerrard the cup if it meant 4th for us is quite frankly incomprehensible to me - I'd genuinely rather lob off my own hands than give him a cup with them - but I can understand the logic if Everton is 100% the focus.

But for me I'm not afraid to admit the local rivalry has a massive bearing on my overall emotions as a football fan. I wouldn't be quite the same Evertonian if I didn't care about the other lot. They're the other half of the circle to me and part of the ups and downs of the whole thing.

WAT

 

[paultheblue]

To answer the question about age and location, 59 and from Walton , As for all these people telling me that I have issues because I do not want them winning the league just you wait till it happens ( and it is going to happen) they will become unbearable.
If you have to mix with the slime from across the park on a daily basis and think they are unbearable now just wait till the get that trophy back in there hands.Its not even the match winning reds that I am talking about you can live with them as at least they have the right to gloat about there triumphs its all the others that you never even knew were "Liverpool Supporters".
Your next door neighbour will have one of his old pissed stained sheets hanging out of the window with "Liberpool Champions of England " written all over it , the streets will become like Shaun of the dead with zombie like creatures wearing red shirts with Candy,Crown Paints and Carlsburg emblazoned all over them.
Im telling you the nightmare is coming ,is that what you want ? because that's whats going to happen.

 

[Tubey]

This might surprise you but, just because I prioritise Everton doing well over the RS failing, this doesn't mean I applaud a RS victory

There is no comparison. They won the CL in 2005, as a bluenose it was as grim as it gets, but was also out of my hands. This is a thread in which a hypothetical dilemma is posed

I wasn't being antagonistic it was a genuine question.

I didn't say you'd applaud a win either, I just asked if you were arsed. To say it's "as grim as it gets" but then conversely say they're not a priority seems odd to me, that's all.