Everton January 2022 Transfer Thread

[BlueToff]

Coleman came from Sligo and then had a short spell at Champions League flying Blackpool before he started playing for us. Not sure it matters all that much if the talent is there.

Well he came in from Sligo and was only put into our team when a mad injury crisis struck. He played a few games at right wing IIRC and then got his move to really get used to playing in England. Even then, he wasn't a regular when he came back. In fact he wasn't a regular at right-back until Moyes' last season, because I remember Hibbert playing there loads in 2011-12.

But it's not like we can afford to do that with Patterson this time around. Which is my point. I hope he hits the ground running if we need him to. I'm sure he's got the right temperament.

 

[NeilA1878]

Make it around £15.5m per year saved from Kenny, Delph, Tosun and Sigurdsson leaving. Absurd money.

I’d rather Mina stayed as he’s our best centre half, but I’ve posted before about why it would make sense to sell. If him, Digne and Gomes all leave sometime in Jan or the summer we’d be looking at a similar saving again, likely more. The new full backs if they come in won’t be on anywhere near what we’d been paying those lads. We’re in a right mess with ffp aren’t we.

Thats just wages? The amortisation for Sigurdsson is 9M, Tosun 6M and Delph 3M on top of that as well... Money down the drain.

 

[billyblue80]

Coutinho or Barkley on loan is ok if we don't have the funds to buy now I suppose(probably take Barkley short term of the two personally Coutinho is very injury prone) but we seriously should be looking at younger number tens like the lad at Coventry long term. Iwobi needs moving on and who knows what is happening with Iceland, he is probably done come the summer regardless .

 

[Nymzee]

Well he came in from Sligo and was only put into our team when a mad injury crisis struck. He played a few games at right wing IIRC and then got his move to really get used to playing in England. Even then, he wasn't a regular when he came back. In fact he wasn't a regular at right-back until Moyes' last season, because I remember Hibbert playing there loads in 2011-12.

But it's not like we can afford to do that with Patterson this time around. Which is my point. I hope he hits the ground running if we need him to. I'm sure he's got the right temperament.

Well we have Coleman still and Kenny so I reckon that’s quite the same as Hibbert’s last season as a starter don’t you think.

 

[davek]

Agree with much of this, Coleman was way ahead of Hibbo especially attacking wise in his prime(Hibbo was a stopper and decent at it but not a lot more) he was an attacking right back with acceleration and took us up the pitch even when he wasn't creating and for 60k was a steal, he has been let down by the club who haven't brought his replacement in early enough and left Seamus to be exposed also his game changed after he broke his leg that half a yard has gone. I haven't seen enough of Patterson to judge also he's a kid not sure we can judge fully what he's going to be on a handful of appearances. I do have concerns since we need someone to come straight in but if he can share the games with Seamus the rest of the season and then take over next season it could work. Especially if the new LB is going to tuck in more and Patterson will be the one pushing on.

Patterson is an out and out winger, never a full back.

Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is clueless.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I am appalled by Benitez tactics and his results, but, unlike you, I will adapt my position when the facts demand it. You however make ridiculous attempts to defend him no matter what.

If he starts winning and finds something like unanimous support Dave would turn on him then.

 

[davek]

All attributes have to be taken into balance. In a scenario where a top winger in the league was cutting in from the flank and running into our penalty area who would you want to stop him? For me it’s Hibbert all day long, in fact he’s probably the top of the list for that for any full back we’ve had since Moyes joined the club. His timing of the tackle, positioning, body shape, and tackle technique was miles better than most full backs we’ve had.

You’re right though that going forward he was a complete non entity whereas Coleman in his prime could get up the pitch a lot easier.

The modern full back has to be able to contribute going forward but it’s just my opinion that the fundamentals of defending are being overlooked now when assessing players. That’s why I’m not bothered about Digne going, in the same scenario as above I think he’s absolutely terrible and has been done countless times for lunging in, being out of position, allowing crosses in, silly fouls etc. He has been good going forward but that hasn’t really moved us on as a club. Even Guardiola more often than not backs Zinchenko because he does the defensive ground work far better than his other options there did.

There’s very few fullbacks who can do both now though (we should have got Reece James whilst we had the chance) so we may have to pick our position with what we go for. The issue with a lot of Evertonians is that they want a back 4 where every player is an attacking threat and that’s just not going to happen in a balanced team.

If we went for a balance of one FB being an out and out attacker who just gets back behind the ball and isn;lt a first rate defender, I'd have a Hibbert type on the other side in a heartbeat. FBs should be primarily defenders IMO and I'll never change that view regardless of current systems.

If we go with two FBs who are supposed to bomb on like Chillwell and James then we'll fall flat on our faces. We dont have the cash to buy in quality like that.

I'm not sure Mykolenko on one side and Patterson on the other gives us any security for the back four. That would be my major concern.

 

[LocalNative]

Coutinho would be tragic.

 

[AdamEFC]

Coutinho on loan would be sound for the season

If it was just a quick stop gap I’d take it. But we’d end up spunking the summer budget on him and being back in the same situation we are now in a years time.

 

[JLW]

Coutinho would be tragic.

Absolutely tragic, our transfer policy should be creating big name players to sell at a huge profit not buying them at the arse end of their career

 

[blueblue]

See I'm happy with Patterson as a target but this idea some fans have got in their heads that he's going to go on and become our right-back for years for certain is a bit mad.

He's played 27 senior club games... in Scotland, and most of those haven't been starts.

He only turned 20 in October, is an established full international already so the signs are good.

However, he will need time to settle and adapt.

 

[blueblue]

I would expect Everton are considering a number of players who can play the number 10 position which is where Countinho would operate and is a position the manager has highlighted .

However, the interest in Countinho is topical because of his Liverpool connection even though I feel it is a deal that would be too expensive for us.

 

[kenada_blue]

Well he came in from Sligo and was only put into our team when a mad injury crisis struck. He played a few games at right wing IIRC and then got his move to really get used to playing in England. Even then, he wasn't a regular when he came back. In fact he wasn't a regular at right-back until Moyes' last season, because I remember Hibbert playing there loads in 2011-12.

But it's not like we can afford to do that with Patterson this time around. Which is my point. I hope he hits the ground running if we need him to. I'm sure he's got the right temperament.

Agree with that. Said it every since we've been linked, and it's the same with the Ukrainian lad....they're not ready for the premiership.

They're great signings for a squad and development not 1st team starters. And for £30million.....

 

[AdamEFC]

Amazing how many people watch the Scottish and Ukrainian leagues week in week out to know how good these players are.

 

[kenada_blue]

I would expect Everton are considering a number of players who can play the number 10 position which is where Countinho would operate and is a position the manager has highlighted .

However, the interest in Countinho is topical because of his Liverpool connection even though I feel it is a deal that would be too expensive for us.

Oooooh James Rodriiiiguez