Everton January 2022 Transfer Thread

[BlueToff]

People were slagging Gray before he kicked a ball for us mate.

For once fans just need to give these lads a chance if they sign. Benitez may want to change formation for all we know but wants certain types of players before he does it.

The problem is people hate the manager so much that every signing, decision and thing he does is met with automatic suspicion.

If Longcock signs lets give him a shot eh?

I was very happy with Gray. I'll give Longstaff a shot, he just isn't what we need in midfield. He doesn't sit very well and he isn't creative.

Yes, a manager who is this bad, his decisions should be met with suspicion. He just played 33-year-old Seamus Coleman, who struggles at right-back, at left wing-back in a Premier League match.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Yeah, for example you said he wasn't good enough to start matches

Based on the fact Richarlison was playing wide and we were supposedly in talks to sign Luis Diaz.

Nothing wrong with that - I dont believe Longstaff is good enough to start for us either doesn't mean he cant offer something to the squad and be a useful addition at the right price.

 

[DanEFC92]

If the budget is small then can someone please explain the logic of paying money for a player we can sign for free in about 5 months.

I'm no football or financial expert, but this doesn't feel like a difficult decision to me. Either sign him in June on a free or don't sign him at all. And that's even before considering the skill set of a player, it's just basic common sense.

Talkin' about a club that spent £30m on Keane when he had a year left on his contract.

 

[Azza]

At least we're looking at players under 28, as we have a great record of developing young players.

Just look at Tom Davies, the Pirlo of Little Neston.

 

[BlueToff]

If you look at his statistics, his off the ball stats are pretty good but his numbers in possession are pretty woeful. He might win you the ball back a few times, but he won't do anything with it. I think the eye test backs that up as well. I've always saw him as someone who can break up play and maybe cover for full backs, but lacks the technical ability to be really effective at this level.

Yeah he presses but doesn't really do it effectively, like Allan.

However, that could be useful in a team that presses well. Newcastle didn't under Bruce, they do a bit more under Howe. For example Saint-Maximin's goal v Man Utd, Longstaff nipped in and his tackle/prod was the assist.

But, Everton don't press as a unit. Because our midfield two is far too stretched as it is.

 

[LocalNative]

If the budget is small then can someone please explain the logic of paying money for a player we can sign for free in about 5 months.

I'm no football or financial expert, but this doesn't feel like a difficult decision to me. Either sign him in June on a free or don't sign him at all. And that's even before considering the skill set of a player, it's just basic common sense.

Either way won't be a free transfer. Becoming more and more common for players to run their contract down so they get a heavy sign on fee.

Conversation should be a non-starter anyway, we need someone better than Allan and Doucoure to challenge them not someone to play second fiddle.

Also find it difficult to understand why he'd swap the bench of his boyhood club for our bench.

 

[Tree13]

I think most of us would rather we didn't sell one of our best players in the middle of a relegation battle. That simple enough for you?

From a financial point of view we are selling an asset at peak value now in order to try to improve the health of the accounts within this reporting period. We're doing that in order to try to avoid having to sell a more valuable asset (Richarlison, Gray, DCL or Pickford) at an under-value sum later during the same period (summer 2022).

No-one will rationally argue that Pickford, Gray, DCL or Richarlison will make LESS on-field impact that Digne in the next five months - that's no criticism of Digne by the way - so of the rest of the squad, who has high value, high wages and at least two years left on their contracts? They are the players you try to sell. Digne is top of the list.

Additionally, selling Digne will finance investment at RB (which we've all been crying out for) and permit a replacement for him at LB. The only risk is that if BOTH new fullbacks fail, we're worse off on the pitch.

At this stage, we take the risk. It's the right move.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Based on the fact Richarlison was playing wide and we were supposedly in talks to sign Luis Diaz.

Nothing wrong with that - I dont believe Longstaff is good enough to start for us either doesn't mean he cant offer something to the squad and be a useful addition at the right price.

Our squad is still far too big and there are far too many players who don't improve the team when they get a chance. The idea of adding more squad fillers to an already bloated, and low quality squad, seems pretty ludicrous to me.

I can't get my head around the idea of bidding on him when he will be free in a few months.

Richarlison can only play on one side of the pitch as far as I'm aware. Not sure what he has to do with Gray.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Yeah he presses but doesn't really do it effectively, like Allan.

However, that could be useful in a team that presses well. Newcastle didn't under Bruce, they do a bit more under Howe. For example Saint-Maximin's goal v Man Utd, Longstaff nipped in and his tackle/prod was the assist.

But, Everton don't press as a unit. Because our midfield two is far too stretched as it is.

Allan should be one of the first put up for sale before his contract runs out and his value plummets to virtually nothing. We can still probably get back about half of what we paid if we sell now. He has been pretty abysmal this season and I still have no idea what he does.

We need midfielders ready to start right now. And that shouldn't be hard because we have only 1 decent one, Doucoure, and he isn't even that consistent.

 

[DanEFC92]

It's a no from me for Tom Clevstaff

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Our squad is still far too big and there are far too many players who don't improve the team when they get a chance. The idea of adding more squad fillers to an already bloated, and low quality squad, seems pretty ludicrous to me.

I can't get my head around the idea of bidding on him when he will be free in a few months.

Richarlison can only play on one side of the pitch as far as I'm aware. Not sure what he has to do with Gray.

Which is the problem! But we're not going to go from that to having a squad like Chelsea or Utd with our FFP problems.

Its a gradual process that will take years to fix and if replacing players like Gbamin and Delph who cant get on the pitch most of the time with a hard working steady eddie like Longstaff is the first phase of that rebuild then happy days imo.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Which is the problem! But we're not going to go from that to having a squad like Chelsea or Utd with our FFP problems.

Its a gradual process that will take years to fix and if replacing players like Gbamin and Delph who cant get on the pitch most of the time with a hard working steady eddie like Longstaff is the first phase of that rebuild then happy days imo.

We don't need to replace players who never play. We need to replace those who do play, but aren't good enough.

 

[chopper6]

He's still one of our best players though firstly because half of them aren't even average and secondly because he's got the ability to do a lot more but can't due to the dull negative football we play. I don't want us to play dull negative football so selling the players who are better than that to free up money to sign more Townsends Rondons and Longstaffs who fit into the awful style isn't something I want us to be doing. You haven't made the really clever point you think you have player trading is something I'm happy for us to do and Digne is one I'd happily trade but him being a pawn in a Benitez power move is a very worrying sign for anyone who cares about Everton.

Erm correct me if I’m wrong but we’ve not sold Digne to bring in players like Rondon & Townsend though?!

We’ve just invested his probable fee on a 22 year old promising Ukrainian international LB, and a 20 year old promising Scottish international RB?

 

[JimmyK]

From a financial point of view we are selling an asset at peak value now in order to try to improve the health of the accounts within this reporting period. We're doing that in order to try to avoid having to sell a more valuable asset (Richarlison, Gray, DCL or Pickford) at an under-value sum later during the same period (summer 2022).

No-one will rationally argue that Pickford, Gray, DCL or Richarlison will make LESS on-field impact that Digne in the next five months - that's no criticism of Digne by the way - so of the rest of the squad, who has high value, high wages and at least two years left on their contracts? They are the players you try to sell. Digne is top of the list.

Additionally, selling Digne will finance investment at RB (which we've all been crying out for) and permit a replacement for him at LB. The only risk is that if BOTH new fullbacks fail, we're worse off on the pitch.

At this stage, we take the risk. It's the right move.

I'm not sure that it's going to be up to us whether we sell Richarlison and Calvert Lewin in the summer I'd be absolutely amazed if at least one of them isn't banging the door down saying they want out. That's if (and in my opinion it is a very very big if) we're even still in the league. That's why saying "the only risk" is a bit stupid because it's just about the biggest risk imaginable.

 

[T LEAFE]

Rafael must know Seany inside out.
So if Seany is good enough for Rafael then Seany is good enough for the School of Science