Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread


Tony’s Carp said:
Absolutely, as I just replied to Neiler the need to extract value is imperative regardless of budget. It’s an absolutely critical summer- invest in a good number of growth prospects with future resale potential and one good summer of spending can help fuel the summers to come.

I know we don’t always want to think of ourselves as a selling club and in terms of how much profit we can make from signings, but if we are ever going to grow out of being a selling club it’s the way we need to think about things right now.
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Yup and the key for me is when we sell it's in our terms.

Take Branthwaite, option one he breaks out and big bids come in last and next summer we accept. Lad keeps on developing and in 5-6 years time he's worth double or at a club where he's got no upward movement left, player sold at 21-22 and we had maybe two sessions of him as he developed.
Option two, we keep him until he's 26, he fully develops, we get 4 seasons of him as he reaches his peak, then we sell him for his 'big move' the money is at least the same but you've had the benefit of the payer you developed now for 4 seasons worth.
 
bluestevon said:
Yeah Thelwells a tough one, is he capable of doing deals faster and beating out competition for players IF he has more room to maneuver. Hard thing to decide until we see it really.
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I think we did see that with the Onana deal to some extent, basically pounced on a deal West Ham had agreed then persuaded the player to pick us instead.

Would also say about him doing deals faster etc: he actually went about things pretty efficiently last summer. The bulk of his major business (Tim, Ndiaye, O’Brien, Lindstrom) was done by the end of July, in more than good time to be ready for the season. The failure to hit the ground running was entirely down to the manager.
 
Tony’s Carp said:
I think we did see that with the Onana deal to some extent, basically pounced on a deal West Ham had agreed then persuaded the player to pick us instead.

Would also say about him doing deals faster etc: he actually went about things pretty efficiently last summer. The bulk of his major business (Tim, Ndiaye, O’Brien, Lindstrom) was done by the end of July, in more than good time to be ready for the season. The failure to hit the ground running was entirely down to the manager.
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Fair shout actually, think due to Dyche slow waking the new lads in it felt like they'd arrived much later. Decent business for a total of made perm with Lindstrom of 60-65m total? With 8-9 of that coming bs k due to the Dobbin-Tim work around. So really 50-55m to get in at worst 4 solid squad players all with the potential still to get much better. (Ndiaye already way better than a squad player)

If he added 4 of the likes of those lads on similar type deals, AND added another 3 say at a higher level/price then I'd be pretty very happy like.
 

bluestevon said:
Having Moyes in charge dies give me that security blanket feeling of not messing it all up by bringing in crud.

One worry though is he can be overly cautious to the extent it hampers deals. But he won't be throwing it around like confetti.
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Reading between the lines (I've not listened to his interview the other day) we seemingly had money to spend, just chose not to.
 
Tony’s Carp said:
I think we did see that with the Onana deal to some extent, basically pounced on a deal West Ham had agreed then persuaded the player to pick us instead.

Would also say about him doing deals faster etc: he actually went about things pretty efficiently last summer. The bulk of his major business (Tim, Ndiaye, O’Brien, Lindstrom) was done by the end of July, in more than good time to be ready for the season. The failure to hit the ground running was entirely down to the manager.
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Was just thinking about the game at the weekend.

Half the back four (Tarkowski and O'Brien) the entire midfield (Ndiaye, Gueye, Garner, Lindstrom) and the striker (Beto) all brought in by Thelwell.

That's 7/11 starters - total cost about 85m (giving Lindstrom the cost of purchasing him as well otherwise just 65m)

Btw the cost of the other 4 totals up to about 65m as well weirdly (Pickford, Mykolenko, Branthwaite and Doucoure)

Looking at that I'm inclined to say you're right and we should give him a new contract with the instructions ok now you can shop in a higher market but we want half the desks to be of this calibre too price/quality wise.
 
bluestevon said:
Having Moyes in charge dies give me that security blanket feeling of not messing it all up by bringing in crud.

One worry though is he can be overly cautious to the extent it hampers deals. But he won't be throwing it around like confetti.
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Is there another psr deadline this year, goid thing now will have time if thelwell stats or to quickly bring in a new dof. So can work with moyes and get the players he wants ready to go.
 
Jebus_lives said:
Reading between the lines (I've not listened to his interview the other day) we seemingly had money to spend, just chose not to.
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Yup kinda have the feeling nobody he really wanted was moving so he kept calm about it.

I think he'd have liked Ferguson but not a chance on the terms West Ham have agreed too. One thing Moyes has always done is only loan a player you know you can definitely purchase per loan agreement.
 


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