Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

[The Binman]

He’d be our best player by light years.

If true, we'd only ruin him and bring him to our level i feel

 

[Neiler]

We signed most of these named in structured deals which avoided paying money immediately and possibly not at all and also they were signed with PSR as a major issue.

If we had money to spend and no PSR issues I don't honestly think we would have signed any of those named

Even now we all know players we should buy but we also know we can't afford them.

Ideally we would not be active now at all in the market but our circumstances are that we need players to help avoid relegation.

Yes this we know mate. So my point is why continue the cycle now of signing the Harrisons and Danjumas of this world. Its pointless.

Cash flow isnt a problem, cashflow means we dont have to structure deals anymore, which widens the fields.

We have PSR headroom, while we also have 6 weeks to create PSR headroom in the summer.

We can afford players in my opinion - not unltimately so. But i dont want us buying Jack Harrisons on four year deals.

Those days need to be over.

Our circumstances aren't as stark as i think you believe mate, they are such that enables competent planning and execution that makes at least three good signings.

Ive given many pre takeover a lot of slack, in terms on "limits" ive often talked about and have cut my expectations on preformcens because of it and defended many because of it.

However the job of work now with the takeover and internal changes, is that every decision needs to be a progressive one and held to a higher standard and held to a higher standard of accountability to.

Decisions now need to be recovery, not rescue.

 

[Bkk Andy]

I think we need to give Patterson a run. Plus we have Dixon for the future. Young and Coleman to fill in at times this season.

I like Walker-Peters, but he ain't the solution at LB and we would have to make promises for game time, which the cause blockages at RB.

Personally, would much rather we go out and buy/loan an actual LB.

And, for the record again, Walker-Peters is a really good RB. It's just my personal opinion, but I think we need a left footed specialist LB who can get forward. And money is really tight. Supposedly have around the £10m mark for down-payments this Jan and Southampton want pretty much the full £5m up front for KWP.

PSR limitations I can buy but I can't accept that we're struggling with upfront payments after the takeover. They must have funds to invest or they'll lose the value of their investment.

 

[bluestevon]

Where has all this sudden love for McAtee come from? Is it because he scored for City when finally getting a chance in a Cup game? The reaction from Sheffield United fans is generally mixed. He hardly pulled up any trees in the championship and he’s not some teenager either.

Checked on their forum and I'd say it was far from mixed, didn't see any posts aside from his early part of his first loan that wasn't loving the lad.

 

[brieverton]

Think we also need to be realistically ambitious though, up to the take over we had two problems PSR and cashflow. Now its only PSR. Cashflow is an enabler.

Being realistic sometimes means buying twice, Maupay, Beto, Harrison, Danjuma, Lindstrom etc.

What was the point really, we spent money for 0 impact and we still need players in those positions.

They were simply deals we could do.

I dont see why someone like McAtee isnt realistic if im honest.

I'd agree about McAtee. There are some players that might need convincing to join us but he shouldn't be in that category.

The whole point of the takeover really is that it should enable us to be deal makers and not deal takers. We've had to sell almost everyone worth a bean in recent seasons and are then left floundering for who is available and whom we can afford - you can't expect to find a lot of gems there.

I guess the above should only really play out in the next few years and provided we stay up of course. Then we need to adapt a much more aggressive and focused transfer policy making signings from amongst our top targets and not having to settle for fifth best.

You do have to factor all of this in to explaining our current state but on reflection I think Thelwell, whilst deserving of credit to ensure we stayed within psr limits, hasnt done well enough with the signings we have made. That might be considered harsh but we've regressed this season and it's fine margins by which we live or die.

 

[bluestevon]

Money talks. And tbe player would have to want to come here. And sadly, that isn't an exciting proposition currently.

Not sure tbh mate, he went on loan twice to Sheff United, first time yeah did a championship promotion hopeful, second loan though he went t there knowing it was gonna be a tough session and likely gonna be relegated, but we t as he wanted to play and apparently according to they fans really liked the club/fans

Why would he come here, chance to be a player a new teams built around, high profile team still somehow, big shiny new stadium, won't have to even move house, and a family historic connection with the club.

Lads still only 22, so knows also if he does well he'd likely get a nice to a club winning stuff on the back of his time here.

 

[Aries]

Checked on their forum and I'd say it was far from mixed, didn't see any posts aside from his early part of his first loan that wasn't loving the lad.

Definitely mixed from what I’ve seen. Think you may be being a little blinkered with him because you seem to have a major hard on for the lad currently. But let’s have it right, his digits and performances for an attacking midfielder are hardly earth shattering. The Sheffield United fans in the main don’t seem overly convinced by him from what I’ve read, which is complete contrast to what the majority think of Ndiaye who is god like to them. If it wasn’t for that eye catching display in one game in the cup, he wouldn’t be getting a mention. Look at this transfer thread within minutes of him scoring for City. Bang, suddenly flavour of the month. He’s really not all that and I guarantee if he ended up here, he’d quickly be a target of the boo boys on this forum like Harrison et all.

 

[Bebeto]

When talking about transfer targets we need to be realistic.

McAtee is not realistic.

That is because we are used to mediocrity under the previous ownership. Moyes talked about getting elite players,.and TFG also talked about ambition moving forward. Money is not an excuse anymore. If we are not able to convince those elite players to move to us, then for me its a sign, another one, that thelwell is out of his depth. It's time we show ambition for once in a long time.

 

[Librarian]

Will any of our own youth players make a move to the 1st team

I always thought Mills had a chance to make it at a high level

 

[Neiler]

I'd agree about McAtee. There are some players that might need convincing to join us but he shouldn't be in that category.

The whole point of the takeover really is that it should enable us to be deal makers and not deal takers. We've had to sell almost everyone worth a bean in recent seasons and are then left floundering for who is available and whom we can afford - you can't expect to find a lot of gems there.

I guess the above should only really play out in the next few years and provided we stay up of course. Then we need to adapt a much more aggressive and focused transfer policy making signings from amongst our top targets and not having to settle for fifth best.

You do have to factor all of this in to explaining our current state but on reflection I think Thelwell, whilst deserving of credit to ensure we stayed within psr limits, hasnt done well enough with the signings we have made. That might be considered harsh but we've regressed this season and it's fine margins by which we live or die.

Agree with all that mate.

On Thelwell, i think hes the perfect example of looking at the club through a different and new standardised lens. Its not binary, some stuff hes done well on - outgoing in particular at a difficult time and maintaining in limits, but he's also invested a bit in a few that has made 0 impact, the likes of Beto, Harrison, Lindstrom, Maupay, and Danjuma.

Its not binary opinion of good or bad, its a mixed bag really.

A mixed bag is fine for where we have been.

But this is the question TFG and we need to ask if we are to be an ambitious club:

Kevin Thelwells contract is up in the summer - Is Keven Thelwell the absolute best DOF we can get for this club?

If the answer in no and we can get a better one in June - he simply then has to have a reduced role this window and leave in the summer.

Its that simple.

Grateful for all you did Kev, its not personal, its just business.

If you're a ambitious these are the decisions you have to make.

 

[MACCA75]

We aren’t even linked to McAtee are we? All seems a bit moot.

 

[blueblue]

Yes this we know mate. So my point is why continue the cycle now of signing the Harrisons and Danjumas of this world. Its pointless.

Cash flow isnt a problem, cashflow means we dont have to structure deals anymore, which widens the fields.

We have PSR headroom, while we also have 6 weeks to create PSR headroom in the summer.

We can afford players in my opinion - not unltimately so. But i dont want us buying Jack Harrisons on four year deals.

Those days need to be over.

Our circumstances aren't as stark as i think you believe mate, they are such that enables competent planning and execution that makes at least three good signings.

Ive given many pre takeover a lot of slack, in terms on "limits" ive often talked about and have cut my expectations on preformcens because of it and defended many because of it.

However the job of work now with the takeover and internal changes, is that every decision needs to be a progressive one and held to a higher standard and held to a higher standard of accountability to.

Decisions now need to be recovery, not rescue.

I am not certain that cashflow is no longer an issue or PSR a thing of the past unless it is planned to make some sales before June 30th.

 

[Clarky cat]

This club needs a geniune marquee signing, a player who would be coveted by better placed clubs than us around Europe. I’m not sure who that is but just one decent signing might convince others. I would then, quite rightly imo, question that particular player’s brain capability.

 

[Bebeto]

We aren’t even linked to McAtee are we? All seems a bit moot.

And that's a problem...we are linked with players either that have past their best or young prospect that are completely unknown at this level. Thelwell list is indeed very small

 

[Billy Dean]

Can we spend freely now the PSR thing has quietened down? If so we should go for both McAtee and Chukwuemeka