Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

[Marius57]

Doucs has a contract extension. Patterson your numbers are wrong but if hes nowhere near the team after 50-60 games now with Seamus still out he's got to go. Ferguson and Kone would be lethal.

When did Doucs get another extension that only you know about?

He’s played in the last 2. Or have you not been watching?

Evan Ferguson top class? He doesn’t even make the Brighton starting 11 when fit. As he is behind *checks notes* Danny Welbeck.

 

[bluestevon]

Doucs has a contract extension. Patterson your numbers are wrong but if hes nowhere near the team after 50-60 games now with Seamus still out he's got to go. Ferguson and Kone would be lethal.

We signed Doucoure initially on a 3 year deal with an option for an extra year, he's now n his 4th season after we triggered the extension a few years back, he's out of contract this summer we do t have s y other option to extend besides offering him a new contract

So no you're wrong yet again.

Patterson was signed in January '22 on a five and a half year deal for 16m, each year his amortisation is 2.9m, he's been here three years so his book value is now approx 6.3m if you sell a player then all his remaining book value is then applied against PSR for the season you sell him in.

So no my numbers aren't wrong, you just obviously have zero clue how PSR works.

Why do you think a lot of teams now use the loan with option as a way to lower the damage to PSR by selling castoffs?

But anyway love for you to counter this post with your factually accurate numbers ))))

 

[Marius57]

We signed Doucoure initially on a 3 year deal with an option for an extra year, he's now n his 4th season after we triggered the extension a few years back, he's out of contract this summer we do t have s y other option to extend besides offering him a new contract

So no you're wrong yet again.

Patterson was signed in January '22 on a five and a half year deal for 16m, each year his amortisation is 2.9m, he's been here three years so his book value is now approx 6.3m if you sell a player then all his remaining book value is then applied against PSR for the season you sell him in.

So no my numbers aren't wrong, you just obviously have zero clue how PSR works.

Why do you think a lot of teams now use the loan with option as a way to lower the damage to PSR by selling castoffs?

But anyway love for you to counter this post with your factually accurate numbers ))))

If we haven’t paid any add ons for Patterson, do they still get counted? As all we definitely know we have paid in fee is £12m.

Which isn’t much in PL terms.

 

[Nymzee]

….not naming names but I’m suspecting we have a Zat multi

Nah Zat is delusional - this guy is just a bellend.

 

[bluestevon]

If we haven’t paid any add ons for Patterson, do they still get counted? As all we definitely know we have paid in fee is £12m.

Which isn’t much in PL terms.

Not sure mate if it's just the value of the initial payment he'd be around 4.3/4.4m book value then.

From memory I think the addons just simply get applied in full the season they are triggered in terms of PSR, they don't alter the amortisation numbers

 

[edge]

What rumours? Other than Internet crap? Ferguson is absolutely top class. @Ming the Merciful please offer an alternative?

The Brighton manager was asked about him last week.
Said he isn't physically or mentally fit to play football at the moment.
can't see us going for him.
Looked to be a very good player in the making , but don't think we would pay the money for him, we havnt any loan spots so can't see it happening.

 

[Clarky cat]

“Triggered by young men and transfers”, a Charlie Sweet story…

Just a reminder, Everton have zero domestic loan spots available so the club cannot loan anybody from another Premier league team. Unless Everton somehow strike a deal to send either Harrison or Broja back (or both) to their parent clubs, which they HAVEN’T and are reported at this time to not be pursuing due to the costs involved, a domestic loan is not an option ffs.

£10m for Doucoure

 

[Eggs]

“Triggered by young men and transfers”, a Charlie Sweet story…

Just a reminder, Everton have zero domestic loan spots available so the club cannot loan anybody from another Premier league team. Unless Everton somehow strike a deal to send either Harrison or Broja back to their parent clubs, which they HAVEN’T and are reported at this time to not be pursuing due to the costs involved, a domestic loan is not an option ffs.

….and it’s very unlikely we consider selling Keane with only 4 CBs on the books and even more unlikely we sell Doucoure, a regular starter especially with Mangala injured.

 

[Dougie]

….and it’s very unlikely we consider selling Keane with only 4 CBs on the books and even more unlikely we sell Doucoure, a regular starter especially with Mangala injured.

Agree, and especially now that Moyes looks to playing all three of our centre backs at once.

 

[bluestevon]

When did Doucs get another extension that only you know about?

He’s played in the last 2. Or have you not been watching?

Evan Ferguson top class? He doesn’t even make the Brighton starting 11 when fit. As he is behind *checks notes* Danny Welbeck.

Ferguson was looking like the next great domestic striker (yeah he's Irish but yanno) the question is now 'is that player still there'? After years of watching absolutely dross strikers for us, I'd be tempted to take the gamble.

At his age and how highly he was touted, even if his problems are genuine and we can't get them sorted, you'd still almost certainly find a taker a few years down the line for a decent fee - similar to how it was known about Barkley's issues off the pitch and injury troubles but still the natural talent had him still in demand.

As a risk/reward transfer it has way more upside than just going out and signing a Tosun, Walcott, Beto, Maupay, et al type for the best part of 20-25m who at best gets you a donkey and more likely just loses you the sane as you risk losing should a Ferguson deal flop.

Guess if TFG are willing to put the money in then these are the big money risks I'd rather take is what I'm saying.

 

[Eggs]

….i think we’ll bring in a couple of players this week, probably not been mentioned on these pages.

 

[bluestevon]

….and it’s very unlikely we consider selling Keane with only 4 CBs on the books and even more unlikely we sell Doucoure, a regular starter especially with Mangala injured.

Yeah most of the players I think Moyes might be fine with chipping out he simply can't due to just how thin the squad is.

Myko could cover CB but without any credible backup left back it's not even an option, same as number 10, McNeil injured means we could t move Ndiaye there if we wanted as no other left winger.

Only thing that could change that is a Saudi bid which obviously then gives us money to replace say a Doucoure etc but think that shipped sailed.the other year

 

[bilyaletdinov_]

any one of:
Ferguson
McAtee
Chukwuemeka (butchered that)

would be really good additions imo, unfortunately all very unlikely

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

….i think we’ll bring in a couple of players this week, probably not been mentioned on these pages.

Absolutely.

690 pages and two will come out of left field on Wednesday.

My mood on this forum has improved tenfold since I put @davek on ignore.

It's a definite mood improver; you should try it.

Suck it, Dave!

 

[Marius57]

Ferguson was looking like the next great domestic striker (yeah he's Irish but yanno) the question is now 'is that player still there'? After years of watching absolutely dross strikers for us, I'd be tempted to take the gamble.

At his age and how highly he was touted, even if his problems are genuine and we can't get them sorted, you'd still almost certainly find a taker a few years down the line for a decent fee - similar to how it was known about Barkley's issues off the pitch and injury troubles but still the natural talent had him still in demand.

As a risk/reward transfer it has way more upside than just going out and signing a Tosun, Walcott, Beto, Maupay, et al type for the best part of 20-25m who at best gets you a donkey and more likely just loses you the sane as you risk losing should a Ferguson deal flop.

Guess if TFG are willing to put the money in then these are the big money risks I'd rather take is what I'm saying.

I mean, there’s clearly potential there, but he is far from top class currently, and already seems to have a few injury issues.

For the amount they would want, it’s a risk and with the limited money we have, can we afford to take that risk? Yes TFG have money, and we were ‘PSR compliant’ but we may have just scraped compliance for all we know.

I’d rather spend the money on him than say Broja but like I say, it’s a big risk for a lot of money and it’s putting all our eggs in the basket of an unproven 20 year old who has failed to oust a 34 year old Danny welbeck. Really, we need a starting senior striker and Ferguson would be the support for them. But again, money.