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Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

That just separates the good ones from the bad ones for me. A good recruitment team will find deals too be had at all price points Zat, even loans and free transfers. You simply can't just spend vast sums of money every window its why clubs end up with PSR issues. We have also been building a stadium, the cash hasn't been there in recent seasons and some of our fanbase repeatedly fail to get their heads around this for some reason. One example: Jake O'Brien, he is a fairly ordinary CB who has never pulled up any tree's, I don't think he is as good as Tarkowski (Who I'm no massive fan of) and he certainly is no Branthwaite but we spent money on him when we should have loaned a CB and spent the money towards another attacker, its just poor decision making from the recruitment team again imo. Tbh I think we as a club just need a clean slate from top to bottom.


I think were missing something here regarding O'Brien and Mangala -- not only did we pay £16mil+ for O'Brien but clearly some kind of loan fee for Mangala as well.

That must have been due to Textor as he was practically pushing Nuamah out the door to us as well.

So, I'm confused and a bit concerned by this though it would make sense Moshiri informing Thelwell that these were the only players he could have -- from Textors' Lyon.

Reports recently are also stating that they need to sell in January.

I would not be surprised if the O'Brien deal is enormously back dated with a tiny upfront fee and most in the final year of his deal. Otherwise it wouldnt make much sense, it still doesnt make sense simply because hes not been used.

Truth be told as things stand, neither Mangala nor O'Brien should be at the club beyond the end of the season. We need better in central midfield and if O'Brien is a dud we need his fee back to be able to sign more players under TFG utilising PSR
 
I think were missing something here regarding O'Brien and Mangala -- not only did we pay £16mil+ for O'Brien but clearly some kind of loan fee for Mangala as well.

That must have been due to Textor as he was practically pushing Nuamah out the door to us as well.

So, I'm confused and a bit concerned by this though it would make sense Moshiri informing Thelwell that these were the only players he could have -- from Textors' Lyon.

Reports recently are also stating that they need to sell in January.

I would not be surprised if the O'Brien deal is enormously back dated with a tiny upfront fee and most in the final year of his deal. Otherwise it wouldnt make much sense, it still doesnt make sense simply because hes not been used.

Truth be told as things stand, neither Mangala nor O'Brien should be at the club beyond the end of the season. We need better in central midfield and if O'Brien is a dud we need his fee back to be able to sign more players under TFG utilising PSR
On what basis do you conclude that O'Brien is a "dud" ?

I'd place no reliance on that buffoon Dyche not picking him .

To be frank I have no idea if he is good enough or not for the PL but what I will say is that I am amazed , based on his Lyon form , that he hasn't been given a chance by Dyche but then again it's Dyche so hardly surprising.
 
On what basis do you conclude that O'Brien is a "dud" ?

I'd place no reliance on that buffoon Dyche not picking him .

To be frank I have no idea if he is good enough or not for the PL but what I will say is that I am amazed , based on his Lyon form , that he hasn't been given a chance by Dyche but then again it's Dyche so hardly surprising.
Its not a base of being a dud but he didn't pull up any massive tree's in France tbh. I do partly agree with Zat in that I think him and Mangala were "pushed" onto us via Textor at the time.
 

I think were missing something here regarding O'Brien and Mangala -- not only did we pay £16mil+ for O'Brien but clearly some kind of loan fee for Mangala as well.

That must have been due to Textor as he was practically pushing Nuamah out the door to us as well.

So, I'm confused and a bit concerned by this though it would make sense Moshiri informing Thelwell that these were the only players he could have -- from Textors' Lyon.

Reports recently are also stating that they need to sell in January.

I would not be surprised if the O'Brien deal is enormously back dated with a tiny upfront fee and most in the final year of his deal. Otherwise it wouldnt make much sense, it still doesnt make sense simply because hes not been used.

Truth be told as things stand, neither Mangala nor O'Brien should be at the club beyond the end of the season. We need better in central midfield and if O'Brien is a dud we need his fee back to be able to sign more players under TFG utilising PSR

On what basis do you conclude that O'Brien is a "dud" ?

I'd place no reliance on that buffoon Dyche not picking him .

To be frank I have no idea if he is good enough or not for the PL but what I will say is that I am amazed , based on his Lyon form , that he hasn't been given a chance by Dyche but then again it's Dyche so hardly surprising.

Its not a base of being a dud but he didn't pull up any massive tree's in France tbh. I do partly agree with Zat in that I think him and Mangala were "pushed" onto us via Textor at the time.
Was at lyon for one season so imo is hard to really do much more than he did. I kno alot of clubs was looking at him in the transfer window. Honestly crazy to say you would look to sell him at the end of the season one because most likely have a new manager in olace who will have a look at him. Two is crazy to write him off because dyche does not want to play him. Think lyon have had money problems so that has helped pushed the obrien deal, no idea about the mangala deal if its a high proced loan
 
On what basis do you conclude that O'Brien is a "dud" ?

I'd place no reliance on that buffoon Dyche not picking him .

To be frank I have no idea if he is good enough or not for the PL but what I will say is that I am amazed , based on his Lyon form , that he hasn't been given a chance by Dyche but then again it's Dyche so hardly surprising.

Its not a base of being a dud but he didn't pull up any massive tree's in France tbh. I do partly agree with Zat in that I think him and Mangala were "pushed" onto us via Textor at the time.

Was at lyon for one season so imo is hard to really do much more than he did. I kno alot of clubs was looking at him in the transfer window. Honestly crazy to say you would look to sell him at the end of the season one because most likely have a new manager in olace who will have a look at him. Two is crazy to write him off because dyche does not want to play him. Think lyon have had money problems so that has helped pushed the obrien deal, no idea about the mangala deal if its a high proced loan

On the one hand O'Brien was getting great reports at Lyon and of all the signings I expected him to be the...somewhat, 'new Branthwaite' in terms of profile not perhaps level.

But surely any manager would have given him a chance even if their two pets (Keane & Tarkowski) were in the squad competing?

I wonder if the Iroegbunam/Dobbin PSR deal was as big of a PSR deal as O''Brien/Mangala/Nuamah.

Havent heard of many centre backs that suddenly became top class after turning 23/24. There must have been many prospects at his price point or lower to come in and develop.

All the signs point to a Jan sale & when has Dyche ever got a CB wrong?
 
On the one hand O'Brien was getting great reports at Lyon and of all the signings I expected him to be the...somewhat, 'new Branthwaite' in terms of profile not perhaps level.

But surely any manager would have given him a chance even if their two pets (Keane & Tarkowski) were in the squad competing?

I wonder if the Iroegbunam/Dobbin PSR deal was as big of a PSR deal as O''Brien/Mangala/Nuamah.

Havent heard of many centre backs that suddenly became top class after turning 23/24. There must have been many prospects at his price point or lower to come in and develop.

All the signs point to a Jan sale & when has Dyche ever got a CB wrong?

To add to this...Francis Gomez. The young midfielder we signed and sent on loan to Lyon to play in their youth teams.
 
Napoli's Victor Osimhen looks to be playing well on loan for Galatasaray, he is 26 next year is the type of forward we need to get signed in the summer and show some real ambition.
TBH no reason why he couldn't have ended up in the Premier League for the season. Not saying for Everton, but obviously Galatasaray aren't paying him several hundred thousand a week - I'd wager he's not earning anywhere close to what 'good' Premier League players are on. He wanted the exposure for a year after all of the drama at Napoli. Actually, I bet we could have got him with a bit of ambition.
 
On the one hand O'Brien was getting great reports at Lyon and of all the signings I expected him to be the...somewhat, 'new Branthwaite' in terms of profile not perhaps level.

But surely any manager would have given him a chance even if their two pets (Keane & Tarkowski) were in the squad competing?

I wonder if the Iroegbunam/Dobbin PSR deal was as big of a PSR deal as O''Brien/Mangala/Nuamah.

Havent heard of many centre backs that suddenly became top class after turning 23/24. There must have been many prospects at his price point or lower to come in and develop.

All the signs point to a Jan sale & when has Dyche ever got a CB wrong?
Isn't this the same manager who loves Keane who you describe as an "oaf"?
 

….if we have monies to spend in January and given the widespread criticism of the lack of quality in our squad, then I wonder if TFG are considering an immediate change of DOF, saying that their record of getting key personnel appointments right is a major concern.
 
On the one hand O'Brien was getting great reports at Lyon and of all the signings I expected him to be the...somewhat, 'new Branthwaite' in terms of profile not perhaps level.

But surely any manager would have given him a chance even if their two pets (Keane & Tarkowski) were in the squad competing?

I wonder if the Iroegbunam/Dobbin PSR deal was as big of a PSR deal as O''Brien/Mangala/Nuamah.

Havent heard of many centre backs that suddenly became top class after turning 23/24. There must have been many prospects at his price point or lower to come in and develop.

All the signs point to a Jan sale & when has Dyche ever got a CB wrong?
Thing is why would dyche try with him when he could be gone next season. I get what you mean that is strange about his lack of game time.
 
Will be cornet and trippier to complete an ex Burnley back 4 with Branthwaite and N’Diya being sold

Dyche will be sacked 5 days later

….Thelwell brings the players in, no idea what his fascination with Burnley is given Tarkowski and Keane arrived pre-Dyche. I do agree, a replacement for Thelwell needs urgent consideration ahead of January.
 

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