how many assists do davies, gomes and delph have
the fact is our midfield contribute barely anything
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the fact is our midfield contribute barely anything
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
Who cares because they won’t be at the club in 12/18 months
who cares?
you don't care that we have a midfield that barely scores or gets assists?
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
I know what it looked like on a graphic in practice we had Davies playing deeper with Sigurdsson and Doucoure going box to box.
Other thing is why are you using Allan as an example? He's got 0 goals 0 assists.
I'm not saying any of the midfield does enough but I think we're kidding ourselves if we think there isn't a problem with the setup too.
i dont think that's right i think sigurdsson started as attacking midfielder and got moved to defensive mid after the bernard and gomes subs
i haven't mentioned allan stats at all
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
We have a 12th finishing squad before this season. And Ancelotti has one window and bought 4 players. We are still a long way away from get the squad he wants.
But if we had a fully fit squad today and we’re playing a game tonight, none of them 3 start. So that’s why it’s a who cares. Long term they don’t have futures.
gomes is contracted until 2024 and davies until 2023
with davies being an academy player, young-ish and english and with brexit rules coming in it is very likely he will get a new contract
will anyone come in to sign gomes - on his wages very unlikely
will anyone come in to sign davies - possibly the likes of newcastle and southampton but it wouldn't suprise me if we kept him on
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
You can sell people under contract, is it allowed
who is gonna buy gomes?
who wants a midfielder who barely scores and gets assists?
he will end up being a sandro, bolasie, niasse, besic, williams etc
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
Sigurdsson stayed a bit further forward but he was clearly on the left more often, Doucoure on the right and Tom very center. To me that is more 4-3-3.
And this about Allan darting forward. He isn't really. Because it isn't his job.
We've been playing 4-2-3-1 a similar way since Martinez was here and that way is never having the DMs really push into dangerous areas. We were doing that still when it was Gomes and Gana and we still do it to an extent now when we play that way.
I'm just saying the set up contributes to the players in those positions not getting goals. I don't necessarily think Gomes is going to bag 5 or more a season regardless but there was the half season when Tom broke through where he had 2 goals and 3 assists because he was further forward.
from what i have seen this season when allan makes a tackle he looks to make the forward pass and on a few occasions he has made darting runs towards the opponents box
the goal against burnley for example, he dispossessed the player, run forward a bit then put in a pass for richarlison who assisted calvert-lewin
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
That’s Brand’s job.
Sweverton
Player Valuation: £950k
Indeed just look at Makelele, absolutely brilliant defensive midfielder with the goalscoring threat of Hibbert
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
Yeah he's a more forward thinking player than someone like Gomes but the way he's played this season is not for me an example of a midfielder having an impact in the final third.
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