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Everton January transfer window 2021

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So your preferred option isn't an option then?
That’s who I said I would like. I haven’t a clue what Depay or Barca’s plans are in the next transfer window lol.

I mentioned him because the rumour was we wanted him last year and Brands was DOF at PSV when he was coming through. And was singing his praises as a kid.
 
That’s not really the point. The point is he turned out to be no better than the 2nd choice we already had and so adding £30k a week to the existing wage bill was stupid when we keep saying we need to bring said wage bill down. It doesn’t really matter what any other club does, I’m simply saying we added more deadwood to the squad and increased our wage bill at a time when our stated aim was to do the opposite. It’s really very simple, if we pay him £3m to turn up to training for 2 years then it’s an abysmal use of resources.

I agree in the sense it's not value for money but as I said it's the going rate for 2nd/3rd choice keepers unfortunately. Pattern across the league tends to be either low budgets who have two main keepers and one young keeper, or higher budgets were they have 3 main keepers. 30k is a bout right for Lossl in terms of the level we are at. I 100% agree with you, it's not value for money but every club in the league is set up this way as well barring a few who are either new entrants or the likes of Burnley who have always worked tight. I also take from you (i may be wrong in this assumption) that you would prefer to buy players to improve the first team, and have players drop down into that supporting role, ie... Buy a proper keeper, and have Pickford challenge as the back up.. To me that would always be the most logical way of doing it (up to when financial things come into play).

I've put it on a spreadsheet and I've found it quite interesting really. The waste of money united have each week as they continue to play 1 keeper (like every team can..) and are spending an unbelievable amount on two back ups. Absolutely crazy money. WHY they set up this way as clubs, I do not know. For me the natural thing would be to have two decent keepers and then a young keeper who can learn, be part of the squads, gain experience.

I know putting it on a sheet like this means i have to answer the following questions;

  1. Yes I am a sad person with plenty of time on his hands
  2. No I am not a virgin!

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Looking at it, I imagine with Olsen he's quite low on wages so was an affordable loan/buy.

To summarise @Lanolin I do agree it's not value for money at all, but it seems to be a league wide thing for the most part.
 
Need to address our right back problem

Was going to suggest dest on loan but I note he has already played 18 times for Barcelona this season so that seems unlikely

Odriozola would be a loan target from the Spanish giants for me.

Rapid, decent enough in defence and has something to prove ahead of the Euros.
 
Arnautovic anyone?

That type of striker would be good, experienced in the league a decent goal scoring record can play up front on his own and bring others into play.

I'm not sure on his current condition but a loan deal similar to what Man United did with Ighalo last year would be something to look into.
 

I agree in the sense it's not value for money but as I said it's the going rate for 2nd/3rd choice keepers unfortunately. Pattern across the league tends to be either low budgets who have two main keepers and one young keeper, or higher budgets were they have 3 main keepers. 30k is a bout right for Lossl in terms of the level we are at. I 100% agree with you, it's not value for money but every club in the league is set up this way as well barring a few who are either new entrants or the likes of Burnley who have always worked tight. I also take from you (i may be wrong in this assumption) that you would prefer to buy players to improve the first team, and have players drop down into that supporting role, ie... Buy a proper keeper, and have Pickford challenge as the back up.. To me that would always be the most logical way of doing it (up to when financial things come into play).

I've put it on a spreadsheet and I've found it quite interesting really. The waste of money united have each week as they continue to play 1 keeper (like every team can..) and are spending an unbelievable amount on two back ups. Absolutely crazy money. WHY they set up this way as clubs, I do not know. For me the natural thing would be to have two decent keepers and then a young keeper who can learn, be part of the squads, gain experience.

I know putting it on a sheet like this means i have to answer the following questions;

  1. Yes I am a sad person with plenty of time on his hands
  2. No I am not a virgin!

6d4aae54fe94c1ad20729c337599df0c.png


Looking at it, I imagine with Olsen he's quite low on wages so was an affordable loan/buy.

To summarise @Lanolin I do agree it's not value for money at all, but it seems to be a league wide thing for the most part.
I don't want to labour the point but you've just provided figures that suggest only 3 other clubs in the league are paying anything like what we are to a third choice keeper and said that it's evidence that it's normal? Leaving aside that as i already said, I don't really care whether anyone else does when talking about the context of us saying we need to trim the wage bill, it seems to just highlight that the majority of clubs in our position are not paying a third choice keeper £30k a week. It's understandable for Chelsea and United to do it because they play more games and are expecting to win trophies. For us though? As I said in the first place, an awful decision.

Anyway, I hope we don't sign any more wasters this window.
 
I don't want to labour the point but you've just provided figures that suggest only 3 other clubs in the league are paying anything like what we are to a third choice keeper and said that it's evidence that it's normal? Leaving aside that as i already said, I don't really care whether anyone else does when talking about the context of us saying we need to trim the wage bill, it seems to just highlight that the majority of clubs in our position are not paying a third choice keeper £30k a week. It's understandable for Chelsea and United to do it because they play more games and are expecting to win trophies. For us though? As I said in the first place, an awful decision.

Anyway, I hope we don't sign any more wasters this window.

When we signed him though he would have been signed for 2nd choice, dont forget he was on a free as well which always bumps up the wage (This doesnt justify his signing obviously). I was just pointing out that's its normal that a 2nd keeper can have a decent wedge. I've already agreed with you that is not smart financing, there is no reason for him to still be here (even if he was loaned out at 50% wage contribution, its 50% of his wage covered).

I was just adding some context into how football clubs runs and 2nd choice's do get a decent wedge and occassionaly a 3rd. He's obviously moved down to 3rd in that time as well which is more baffling as to why he is still here when we, as a club, for my entire lifetime have collected goalkeepers like stamps.
 
I agree in the sense it's not value for money but as I said it's the going rate for 2nd/3rd choice keepers unfortunately. Pattern across the league tends to be either low budgets who have two main keepers and one young keeper, or higher budgets were they have 3 main keepers. 30k is a bout right for Lossl in terms of the level we are at. I 100% agree with you, it's not value for money but every club in the league is set up this way as well barring a few who are either new entrants or the likes of Burnley who have always worked tight. I also take from you (i may be wrong in this assumption) that you would prefer to buy players to improve the first team, and have players drop down into that supporting role, ie... Buy a proper keeper, and have Pickford challenge as the back up.. To me that would always be the most logical way of doing it (up to when financial things come into play).

I've put it on a spreadsheet and I've found it quite interesting really. The waste of money united have each week as they continue to play 1 keeper (like every team can..) and are spending an unbelievable amount on two back ups. Absolutely crazy money. WHY they set up this way as clubs, I do not know. For me the natural thing would be to have two decent keepers and then a young keeper who can learn, be part of the squads, gain experience.

I know putting it on a sheet like this means i have to answer the following questions;

  1. Yes I am a sad person with plenty of time on his hands
  2. No I am not a virgin!

6d4aae54fe94c1ad20729c337599df0c.png


Looking at it, I imagine with Olsen he's quite low on wages so was an affordable loan/buy.

To summarise @Lanolin I do agree it's not value for money at all, but it seems to be a league wide thing for the most part.


Pickford is on more than Allison and Ederson?!
 
I agree in the sense it's not value for money but as I said it's the going rate for 2nd/3rd choice keepers unfortunately. Pattern across the league tends to be either low budgets who have two main keepers and one young keeper, or higher budgets were they have 3 main keepers. 30k is a bout right for Lossl in terms of the level we are at. I 100% agree with you, it's not value for money but every club in the league is set up this way as well barring a few who are either new entrants or the likes of Burnley who have always worked tight. I also take from you (i may be wrong in this assumption) that you would prefer to buy players to improve the first team, and have players drop down into that supporting role, ie... Buy a proper keeper, and have Pickford challenge as the back up.. To me that would always be the most logical way of doing it (up to when financial things come into play).

I've put it on a spreadsheet and I've found it quite interesting really. The waste of money united have each week as they continue to play 1 keeper (like every team can..) and are spending an unbelievable amount on two back ups. Absolutely crazy money. WHY they set up this way as clubs, I do not know. For me the natural thing would be to have two decent keepers and then a young keeper who can learn, be part of the squads, gain experience.

I know putting it on a sheet like this means i have to answer the following questions;

  1. Yes I am a sad person with plenty of time on his hands
  2. No I am not a virgin!

6d4aae54fe94c1ad20729c337599df0c.png


Looking at it, I imagine with Olsen he's quite low on wages so was an affordable loan/buy.

To summarise @Lanolin I do agree it's not value for money at all, but it seems to be a league wide thing for the most part.



UTD!!!!
 
I agree in the sense it's not value for money but as I said it's the going rate for 2nd/3rd choice keepers unfortunately. Pattern across the league tends to be either low budgets who have two main keepers and one young keeper, or higher budgets were they have 3 main keepers. 30k is a bout right for Lossl in terms of the level we are at. I 100% agree with you, it's not value for money but every club in the league is set up this way as well barring a few who are either new entrants or the likes of Burnley who have always worked tight. I also take from you (i may be wrong in this assumption) that you would prefer to buy players to improve the first team, and have players drop down into that supporting role, ie... Buy a proper keeper, and have Pickford challenge as the back up.. To me that would always be the most logical way of doing it (up to when financial things come into play).

I've put it on a spreadsheet and I've found it quite interesting really. The waste of money united have each week as they continue to play 1 keeper (like every team can..) and are spending an unbelievable amount on two back ups. Absolutely crazy money. WHY they set up this way as clubs, I do not know. For me the natural thing would be to have two decent keepers and then a young keeper who can learn, be part of the squads, gain experience.

I know putting it on a sheet like this means i have to answer the following questions;

  1. Yes I am a sad person with plenty of time on his hands
  2. No I am not a virgin!

6d4aae54fe94c1ad20729c337599df0c.png


Looking at it, I imagine with Olsen he's quite low on wages so was an affordable loan/buy.

To summarise @Lanolin I do agree it's not value for money at all, but it seems to be a league wide thing for the most part.

Actually insane the amount that De Gea is on... Over 5 times the amount Ederson earns? Mental
 

4 clubs have made offers for Cenk Tosun, Besiktas, West Brom, Schalke and Hertha Berlin according to NTV Spor. Hopefully he will be on his way soon.

Besiktas will have 100% offered a loan.
Schalke and Hertha would have offered minimal I'dmimagine
WBA maybe who are desperate and in teh EPL, with gravy jugs in charge...
 
Saw an interview with him that by his own admission hes now fat and slow after going to the chinese league. Became addicted to fizzy drinks. Not sure his current state though. Also comes over as an utter bellend.
We need bullies and bellends at the mo even just short term. Imagine bringing him on rather than Tosun, you'd have more faith we'd be able to score even if he has put on some timber.
 

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