Everton play like 'Stoke'

[Ihaters]

We've come out of this looking weak:

• reliant on the press and radio to fight our corner for us
• allowing a long ball tag to be resurrected (and it's still being used by the back door by Rodgers today)
• failing to nail them post match for their assaults on our players

Rubbish, we came out of this with the media onside. That's a very postive thing.
We can only hope managers fall for it and start to defend against our 'long ball'. A big suprise would be waiting for them.
We didn't need to nail them, the press did our dirty work and we come with a bit of dignity.
What would we have acheived in attacking them? extra points? no.. Media against them? they already are. Media against us for moaning? probably. Looking weak for getting dragged into a slanging match? certainly.
They played this one well. Leave it to the fans and media to slate each other. The club should have more quality than to get involved.

 

[Summerskin]

Did this really need a new thread?

ONLY WANTED A DISCUSSION MATE TAKE YOUR THREATS ELSEWHERE.

 

[wandyr79]

Jagileka's 'defence' consisted of conceding that "we play long balls" and "we can play direct". ****ing hell, with a defence like that you dont need attacking by others.

Gerrard's 'apology' was a complete pisstake designed to reinforce what he'd said earlier but just by saying he maybe went a little too far...the original charge was, and still is, in place though.

They really have taken the piss here post match and Everton's been left standing like a shower of mugs. Call me old fashioned but you have to fight fire with fire. The reaction from the club has been ****ing pitiful as they've wiped their feet all over our reputation.

Pathetic.

Have they, because I have not heard one media article saying Gerrard is spot on. I have seen Gerrard left standing there like a bitter mug but certainly not Everton.

Why start a war of words when the game is over, if before the next derby Moyes is asked then I hope he just sits there and say something along the lines of 'the players will do the talking for me' and this time they do.

 

[EFCNIK]

How can he feel they deserved the 3 points?

They were ****ing terrible. We bossed them for 75 minutes of the game and even we weren't at our best.

 

[Summerskin]

How can he feel they deserved the 3 points?

Because they scored more goals than us lid.

 

[davek]

Rubbish, we came out of this with the media onside. That's a very postive thing.
We can only hope managers fall for it and start to defend against our 'long ball'. A big suprise would be waiting for them.
We didn't need to nail them, the press did our dirty work and we come with a bit of dignity.
What would we have acheived in attacking them? extra points? no.. Media against them? they already are. Media against us for moaning? probably. Looking weak for getting dragged into a slanging match? certainly.
They played this one well. Leave it to the fans and media to slate each other. The club should have more quality than to get involved.

Here's the bottom line:

we've been ragged around and insulted for three days running and the club have 'dealt' with it by reprinting the non-apology of Gerrard on the OS.

If anyone's happy with that response they need they're heads feeling.

WTF has happened to Evertonians when they view this episode as acceptable, or, unbelievably, a 'victory'?

Jesus wept.

 

[Titus Bramble]

I don't really understand the negativity towards us not coming out to counter Gerrards comments. Us keeping quiet has left the focus on what he said and everyone has picked up on how completely daft he made himself and his club out to be.

They are being ridiculed without any intervention by us at all. I don't see how this isn't a good thing.

 

[wandyr79]

That wasn't a retraction though. He hasn't said Everton aren't long ball he said he went 'too far' which means precisely sweet FA.
Everton have forced nothing from the situation - it hasn't been a dignified silence it's been a shameful standing back while our reputation was kicked about by a pair of massive belters.

'We don't care what the RS say'

They can truly say what they like, water off a ducks back. If we need to come back and cry over it then it is shame on us for letting it get to us.

I pissed myself laughing at what he said and the independent did a job on him just like nearly every media outlet. Why say anything when they are saying enough to embarrass themselves.

 

[blaggerblue]

Dont think i like jags 'retaliation' in the echo today..He seems to say 'so what if were a long ball team'. He should really have bigged up our pass and move attacking play ffs!

 

[wandyr79]

I don't really understand the negativity towards us not coming out to counter Gerrards comments. Us keeping quiet has left the focus on what he said and everyone has picked up on how completely daft he made himself and his club out to be.

They are being ridiculed without any intervention by us at all. I don't see how this isn't a good thing.

It is shocking to me that people think we should childishly continue a war of wrods after the game, if they want to act like spoilt brats let them. They could have every single player come out individually and criticise the way we play or insult individual players for all I care.

The media are wising up to what we have known all along, silence from our side is only going to make them more bitter and more twisted.

For me it is a no brainer way to act.

 

[EFCNIK]

Because they scored more goals than us lid.

Meh. Not a freekick in the first place and Coates was all over Jags and should have been a foul.

Nevertheless I would be foaming if I were them.

LULZ.

 

[nsno-chris]

Here's the bottom line:

we've been ragged around and insulted for three days running and the club have 'dealt' with it by reprinting the non-apology of Gerrard on the OS.

If anyone's happy with that response they need they're heads feeling.

WTF has happened to Evertonians when they view this episode as acceptable, or, unbelievably, a 'victory'?

Jesus wept.

Dave, i'm sorry but I just don't agree, this is my view on your post.

Here's the bottom line:

Gerrard has been throwing his toys out of the pram for the last 3 days and the media haven't bit; in fact they've printed his story and then countered this by printing the stats to prove him wrong. The club have kept quiet and let the national press take care of this for them; and they have been proven right because LFC have forced Gerrard to make an apology, may not be an apology we expected, but its made him look like the fool.

We would look like bad tits if every player would have come out arguing the toss over Gerrards comments, the bitter tag would have stood. Does it matter that he say we are long ball merchants??? Let him, i don;t give a **** coz i know, and so do most, that we are not.

Its highly known that Everton have been one of the most creative sides in Eurpoe since the start of the season, so Gerrards comments prove he his bitter that his beloved team are no longer a match for us.

By not saying anything, its getting Brenda, Gerrard and who ever else at the pig hole wound up, Everton are just sitting back and laughing by not saying anything. Well played to them

 

[paulbefc]

Here's the bottom line:

we've been ragged around and insulted for three days running and the club have 'dealt' with it by reprinting the non-apology of Gerrard on the OS.

If anyone's happy with that response they need they're heads feeling.

WTF has happened to Evertonians when they view this episode as acceptable, or, unbelievably, a 'victory'?

Jesus wept.

No we haven't. We have been insulted once and that insult and the culprit has since been crucified in the media. He's now had to face the humiliation of publically apologising for it and openly recognising it was 100% incorrect. Now everyone knows we are a superior side to Liverpool on and off the pitch. Because 1. We outplayed them and now, thanks to Gerrard, everyone and his dog knows that, due to the stats being plastered all over the place and 2. We didn't sink to their quite embarrassing level off the pitch.

If you think neutrals will see all this and still come to the conclusion that we actually are a dirty hoofball team then you must think the population has the combined IQ of 7. Paranoia. This is not about Evertonians being weak and letting Liverpool walk all over us, it's about letting them do it to themselves.

Seriously, it's not hard to get you head around.

 

[mkrudden]

We've come out of this looking weak:

• reliant on the press and radio to fight our corner for us
• allowing a long ball tag to be resurrected (and it's still being used by the back door by Rodgers today)
• failing to nail them post match for their assaults on our players

We've come out of this with our integrity intact. end of.

This isnt a play-ground fight. and even if it was, im glad with are evidently the ones that walk away having not retaliated in the after-math and resorted to name calling.

Your wrong Davek, and not for the first time.

The whole reason this is happening is because for the first time in a long time the Kopites have shown up at Goodison and seen a completely different Everton standing up to them (albeit after the first 20 minutes) and in short, this has extremely f*cked them off.

Surely this is show-cased more than clearly with the pathetic quote of Gerrards 'Everton are not better than us' which was said more to convince himself than anyone else.

There is a long way to go, but this was the first time we've shook them in a very long time. And probably most frustrating to Gerrard is that we did it without our most influential player in Pienaar and Mirralles for a half.

 

[Stan Lee Park]

Breaking News:
Saint Steven of Anfield has joined a new sect said to be controlled from the USA. Fellow devotees travel from all parts of Norway to gather in silence at a dilapidated temple on Walton Breck Road every two weeks.
Little is known about Steven's background but it is rumoured that he was brought up by savages in the East (widely believed to be Huyton). He claims he has been attracted to this group by its beliefs, as articulated by the Divine Brendan of Swansea. These beliefs include:
- that the mystical "Kingkenny" will one day rise from the dead to lead Liverpool to 11th place in the Premier League
- the need for ritual sacrifice of so-called "managers". In recent years victims have included a French school teacher, a Spanish waiter and assorted Scotsmen
- that Everton play in red and white striped shirts in a stadium just off the M6 in Staffordshire
- that numbers have the inverse meaning of those currently understood on this planet. For example: 47% possession is greater than 57%; 314 passes is greater than 400; 14% long ball is greater than 16%
- that headbutting locals in Southport bars does not constitute an illegal act
- that the second Messiah has arrived on Earth in the guise of Luis "El Negrito Loco" Suarez

Gerrard is currently on a lecture tour with David Icke, despite the fact that Icke has described some of his theories as "outlandish".