Transfer Rumour Everton poised to make £25m bid for Celtic full-back Kieran Tierney

[anton66]

£25M plus McCarthy.

 

[Tubey]

Here we go again - Everton 'poised' to do something that takes four weeks minimum to actually pull off.

 

[SlayerX]

In all fairness most supporters in England don't celebrate how much money their club supposedly has.
I would absolutely love a football Armageddon and clocks set back to zero, with all clubs limited on how much they can spend, completely equal across the board.
I would say the overwhelming majority of footy supporters in England would welcome this. Its only the likes of Chelsea, the Manchester clubs, Arsenal, Spurs and brats next door that would oppose it.
The Premier league is rotten and unbalanced and compounded by the fraud of the 'champions' league which has poured incredible wealth on these clubs and pushed them away from fair competition.
Celtic themselves by continually winning a weaker league benefit from this 'champions' league exposure also and have their coffers filled with UEFA gold treasure. This also weakens and damages competition in the SPL.
Neither of our leagues or any other European league is infallible to criticism.

Very good points and I completely concur.

I think money has certainly contributed to the downfall of the England national team, mainly because of the shrinking player pool that the national team has to play with. Last time I checked the percentage of overseas players playing in the EPL is about 75% and growing. I'd put a 3 foreigner rule in place. There's going to be the odd person saying that it's against "EU freedom of movement", but there's a loophole, the loophole is that a manager can bring in as many overseas players as he wants, but he can only play three.

 

[Tubey]

Just out of interest, what additional skills does a 30m player have over a 25m player? Seems a few would be happy to see us pay 25 but not 30, so what does he have to make him a 25m player, but lack that doesn’t make him a 30m player?

It's more that we really shouldn't be paying a team in a tinpot league the going rate for a player from an actual league. We should be in a position of strength on this - for me, it's £25m at the very, very max and, if need be, you increase the money you pay the player to get him to join rather than the fee to the club - Celtic can't turn down £25m in my view for any player.

 

[Nymzee]

Most people like to get a bargain, or at least get value for money. Especially if you have limited funds.

The fact that we spunked so much last window doesn't help our situation either.

But again, as fans, why do we care.

 

[Moomin]

Very good points and I completely concur.

I think money has certainly contributed to the downfall of the England national team, mainly because of the shrinking player pool that the national team has to play with. Last time I checked the percentage of overseas players playing in the EPL is about 75% and growing. I'd put a 3 foreigner rule in place. There's going to be the odd person saying that it's against "EU freedom of movement", but there's a loophole, the loophole is that a manager can bring in as many overseas players as he wants, but he can only play three.

What a load of tosh, last year was England's most succesful at national level. Under 20 and Under 17 world cup winners.

 

[SlayerX]

I don't really understand this, England's standard of players didn't go down after 1996 it went up. To our detriment in a lot of cases as the managers were forced to shoehorn all the players in the team. Which left no cohesion and some of the best players in the world in their positions playing out of position. The sponsors telling the F.A they wanted their boys playing for England which in turn forced the F.A to hire crap yes men as managers.

We had Neville, carrigher, Terry, sol campbell, Rio, Cole, scholes, Gerrard, lampard, Beckham, Owen, Rooney, fowler. It was even nicknamed the golden generation

I kinda agree with this. The standard did improve sharply, through the so called golden generation, but it's falling rapidly. Another problem is that those players were involved in a deep-dryer of rivalry all year round, and were expected to be team-mates in the summer (one the players actually admitted that the transition from foe to friend was difficult). More of them would've benefitted from moving abroad and only a couple of them did.

 

[SlayerX]

What a load of tosh, last year was England's most succesful at national level. Under 20 and Under 17 world cup winners.

Very few of them will play in the EPL for the top 5.

 

[Moomin]

Very few of them will play in the EPL for the top 5.

Too early to say, but its certainly not the sign of a nation in downfall if the youth level are winning tournaments at world level for different age groups.

Quite the opposite of downfall in fact.

 

[SlayerX]

The good thing (from Everton's point of view) is that Celtic need a midfielder, after selling Stuart Armstrong. If you offered them £25m and James McCarthy then I don't think they'd refuse. They already have a ready-made replacement for left back in Calvin Miller (another young Scot)

If I was Everton I'd stop messing around and just offer £25/£30m and see what Celtic say.

 

[Tin-Tin]

£25M plus McCarthy.

The good thing (from Everton's point of view) is that Celtic need a midfielder, after selling Stuart Armstrong. If you offered them £25m and James McCarthy then I don't think they'd refuse. They already have a ready-made replacement for left back in Calvin Miller (another young Scot)

If I was Everton I'd stop messing around and just offer £25/£30m and see what Celtic say.

Wages? McCarthy is on about £50k a week. Would be nice for him to return but is he that much of a fan he would tske a paycut? Plus I think the oweners want the money so any swap deal doesnt see them make £££. They will take the cash, spend £2-3 mill on a replacement, pocket the rest and win everything again.

 

[Barnfred 55]

But again, as fans, why do we care.

ermmm. Last time I looked most people = fans

 

[SlayerX]

Too early to say, but its certainly not the sign of a nation in downfall if the youth level are winning tournaments at world level for different age groups.

Quite the opposite of downfall in fact.

If these players end up playing for the likes on Charlton and Crystal Palace then how can this be good for England? Your youth teams are fantastic, no one is denying that, but these players should be playing with their clubs. Their way is being blocked by overseas players.

A few of them are going abroad, though, which is a good thing.

 

[Moomin]

I kinda agree with this. The standard did improve sharply, through the so called golden generation, but it's falling rapidly. Another problem is that those players were involved in a deep-dryer of rivalry all year round, and were expected to be team-mates in the summer (one the players actually admitted that the transition from foe to friend was difficult). More of them would've benefitted from moving abroad and only a couple of them did.

Seriously, how is it falling rapidly when the underage groups are the best in the world???

 

[SlayerX]

Wages? Plus I think the oweners want the money so any swap deal doesnt see them make £££. They will take the cash, spend £2-3 mill on a replacement, pocket the rest and win everything again.

McCarthy is a Celtic fan and things are going too well at Everton, so I don't think it would be much of an issue.

As a Scotland fan, though, I never want to see McCarthy playing in Scotland again... same with McGeady.