Everton Summer 2024 Transfer Thread

[gixerk6]

Agreed, I think the ship has sailed on a renewal of his contract, so I do think the swap deal with Minteh will happen in the next couple of days.

If we play in the same style in the forthcoming season, he is going to be a huge loss and will need to be replaced.

The problem is that Newcastle are overvaluing Minteh and they think we are overvaluing DCL. Plus I think they are desperate to get as much for Minteh for PSR. Lyon are offering them what they want but Minteh doesn’t want to go to them but apparently wants to come to us. We seem unwilling to drop out valuation and so do Newcastle. It’s a who blinks first scenario and who needs the sale more. I’ve got a feeling we can’t afford Minteh without DCL being factored in .

 

[toffee66]

Everton are certainly not discouraging agents of peripheral players from finding their guys moves as the Godfrey deal shows. I jdon’t think there is much interest out there for Maupay, Keane or Holgate right now. Maupay should find something before the window shuts. We might shove Holgate out last minute on a loan with partial wage cover to some league one or third rate Euro team. Keane will in all probability stolidly occupy a seat on our bench.

 

[flibbyflob]

Think the rumours of DCL deal being back on has come from some no mark Geordie account

Presume that is because they need to shift Minteh and we won't sign him without DCL going other way.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Can we just cut to the chase here lads

 

[ToffeeTim]

Can we just cut to the chase here lads

If both clubs agree to a very similar valuation, I could still see this happening.

Any deal where we have pay additional cash as part of the trade, is a bad deal for Everton. Our player is the one who has played many years at this level.

 

[CielosGrises]

If both clubs agree to a very similar valuation, I could still see this happening.

Any deal where we have pay additional cash as part of the trade, is a bad deal for Everton. Our player is the one who has played many years at this level.

This makes my head hurt a bit - but no two players can be a net zero trade surely - they all have different values.

 

[n01efc]

Everton are certainly not discouraging agents of peripheral players from finding their guys moves as the Godfrey deal shows. I jdon’t think there is much interest out there for Maupay, Keane or Holgate right now. Maupay should find something before the window shuts. We might shove Holgate out last minute on a loan with partial wage cover to some league one or third rate Euro team. Keane will in all probability stolidly occupy a seat on our bench.

No one in their right mind is going to take these for much of a fee, and they are going to take a pay cut to leave so aren’t going to force a move either.

 

[JimmyK]

No one in their right mind is going to take these for much of a fee, and they are going to take a pay cut to leave so aren’t going to force a move either.

They're late in the window transfers if they happen nobody is setting their stall out to buy those players as a priority they're the type who get a move when other deals don't come off or a player gets sold or injured and needs to be replaced.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

If both clubs agree to a very similar valuation, I could still see this happening.

Any deal where we have pay additional cash as part of the trade, is a bad deal for Everton. Our player is the one who has played many years at this level.

Yes but then again which one is more likely to yield a profit in the future? I could see us making a small adjustment (or include clauses) but definitely not a big one.

It all feels a bit scripted to me still, we are refusing to match their valuation, they are refusing ours, at the end of the day the valuations mean nothing, it’s just the difference between them that needs agreed on and that shouldn’t be too much either way.

At least if it happens there will be a paper trail of the teams “negotiating hard”, and a handy rival bid, to help if we need to justify the valuations that eventually go down for PSR.

 

[ToffeeTim]

This makes my head hurt a bit - but no two players can be a net zero trade surely - they all have different values.

A players value is ultimately what the two clubs decide its worth. I dont see any way a trade type deal isn't an arms length deal. Both clubs are independent and will be seeking the best deal for themselves. If the negotiations end up in almost a straight swap then so be it. That's still a commercial deal between two unconnected parties.

 

[Raino85]

They're late in the window transfers if they happen nobody is setting their stall out to buy those players as a priority they're the type who get a move when other deals don't come off or a player gets sold or injured and needs to be replaced.

i think all 3 would be excellent loans for Leeds..........maybe not Holgate

 

[jazzy]

Can we just cut to the chase here lads

What would be your "minimum " valuations of the 2 players and would you countenance paying DCL plus cash for Minteh.

I'm struggling as I've never seen the lad play but based on his age and form in Holland I'd guess that Minteh's value would be around £25-30 million .

DCL is a difficult player to value . Last year of his contract , had significant time out through injury and a poor scoring record but at his best leads the line very well. I'd say about £30 million.

 

[jazzy]

Yes but then again which one is more likely to yield a profit in the future? I could see us making a small adjustment (or include clauses) but definitely not a big one.

It all feels a bit scripted to me still, we are refusing to match their valuation, they are refusing ours, at the end of the day the valuations mean nothing, it’s just the difference between them that needs agreed on and that shouldn’t be too much either way.

At least if it happens there will be a paper trail of the teams “negotiating hard”, and a handy rival bid, to help if we need to justify the valuations that eventually go down for PSR.

I agree with that. It paints the right picture.

 

[jazzy]

Yes but then again which one is more likely to yield a profit in the future? I could see us making a small adjustment (or include clauses) but definitely not a big one.

It all feels a bit scripted to me still, we are refusing to match their valuation, they are refusing ours, at the end of the day the valuations mean nothing, it’s just the difference between them that needs agreed on and that shouldn’t be too much either way.

At least if it happens there will be a paper trail of the teams “negotiating hard”, and a handy rival bid, to help if we need to justify the valuations that eventually go down for PSR.

Completely agree but as @Tony's Carp says in the current climate it does no harm to give the impression of a tough negotiation.

Given what City and the RS have got in fees for squad players it would be impossible to contend that any of these deals are for inflated prices.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

What would be your "minimum " valuations of the 2 players and would you countenance paying DCL plus cash for Minteh.

I'm struggling as I've never seen the lad play but based on his age and form in Holland I'd guess that Minteh's value would be around £25-30 million .

DCL is a difficult player to value . Last year of his contract , had significant time out through injury and a poor scoring record but at his best leads the line very well. I'd say about £30 million.

I just think given the premium you pay for potential you’d probably expect us to have to pay a bit more. Both transfers are risky (DCL’s injury record, Minteh’s inexperience) but Minteh has the greater potential resale value. Ideally we might solve it with an unadjusted swap and a sell on / buy back.

Both club valuations are pretty fanciful (37 for DCL, 40 for Minteh) but then if we got say 25 for DCL and paid 28 for Minteh it would be the same thing and we wouldn’t feel done over.