Everton Summer 2024 Transfer Thread

[n01efc]

They're late in the window transfers if they happen nobody is setting their stall out to buy those players as a priority they're the type who get a move when other deals don't come off or a player gets sold or injured and needs to be replaced.

And that is if we are lucky.

 

[jazzy]

A players value is ultimately what the two clubs decide its worth. I dont see any way a trade type deal isn't an arms length deal. Both clubs are independent and will be seeking the best deal for themselves. If the negotiations end up in almost a straight swap then so be it. That's still a commercial deal between two unconnected parties.

Completely agree . As I said above and as @Tony's Carp set out we might have to play the game.

No way can the PL prove inflated valuations

 

[CielosGrises]

I also can'rt get my head around Maupay not being worth anything and Godfrey worth 10m+ euros.

Surely Mopey could go for that ?

At the moment we have him until August 2025 - so even his (probably inflated) wages are coming to an end.

 

[Paul Rideout]

Still not a whisper on selling Keane Holgate & Maupay

Looks like we will be stuck with until their contracts run down

You’ve been spoilt by all this transfer activity - it’s only June & we’ve almost dealt with our 2 value 2025 OOC assets.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Completely agree . As I said above and as @Tony's Carp set out we might have to play the game.

No way can the PL prove inflated valuations

I don’t know what Lyon’s game is with their mega offer but if it’s in writing it would satisfy the definition of an arms length transaction for Minteh as under clause A of the rules it would evidence a competitively determined price.

 

[Paul Rideout]

The problem is that Newcastle are overvaluing Minteh and they think we are overvaluing DCL. Plus I think they are desperate to get as much for Minteh for PSR. Lyon are offering them what they want but Minteh doesn’t want to go to them but apparently wants to come to us. We seem unwilling to drop out valuation and so do Newcastle. It’s a who blinks first scenario and who needs the sale more. I’ve got a feeling we can’t afford Minteh without DCL being factored in .

I wonder, with Godfrey going do we now hold all the cards?

They need to sell and we don’t (but getting rid of a player who won’t sign a contract is appealing). Minteh won’t sign for anyone else… so they need to give.

Which given how they out strategised us on camera for that Gordon deal, this would be our retribution.

 

[n01efc]

I also can'rt get my head around Maupay not being worth anything and Godfrey worth 10m+ euros.

Surely Mopey could go for that ?

At the moment we have him until August 2025 - so even his (probably inflated) wages are coming to an end.

No sane person is paying £10m for Maupay. We’ll be lucky if we get rid of him at all.

 

[mikel_88]

I also can'rt get my head around Maupay not being worth anything and Godfrey worth 10m+ euros.

Surely Mopey could go for that ?

At the moment we have him until August 2025 - so even his (probably inflated) wages are coming to an end.

Still think it will go late with brentford looking get him cheap or a loan again towards end of window. Just depends if we get more clubs come in

 

[JimmyK]

I just think given the premium you pay for potential you’d probably expect us to have to pay a bit more. Both transfers are risky (DCL’s injury record, Minteh’s inexperience) but Minteh has the greater potential resale value. Ideally we might solve it with an unadjusted swap and a sell on / buy back.

Both club valuations are pretty fanciful (37 for DCL, 40 for Minteh) but then if we got say 25 for DCL and paid 28 for Minteh it would be the same thing and we wouldn’t feel done over.

It depends how much they rate Minteh and how important he would be to the team if he came. Dom is an important player so if we lose him and get a squad player in return but have to pay for the privilege it isn't a good deal but if he's seen as a key player who is going to start every week its different. The figures seem very high for a player with his experience and the fact Newcastle apparently are desperate to sell him but I haven't seen enough of him to know if its value or not.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

I wonder, with Godfrey going do we now hold all the cards?

They need to sell and we don’t (but getting rid of a player who won’t sign a contract is appealing). Minteh won’t sign for anyone else… so they need to give.

Which given how they out strategised us on camera for that Gordon deal, this would be our retribution.

I suspect we may still need to sell, or at least given the unresolved interest issue would be wise to sell, but what we’ve done with the Dobbin and Godfrey sales is at least spin the narrative we don’t need to sell, which is a helpful upper hand.

 

[JimmyK]

I also can'rt get my head around Maupay not being worth anything and Godfrey worth 10m+ euros.

Surely Mopey could go for that ?

At the moment we have him until August 2025 - so even his (probably inflated) wages are coming to an end.

Maupay isn't worth nothing but he's not going to be in high demand from top level clubs either if he leaves it will be late in the window when a team gets a bit more desperate or he is more willing to consider less appealing options.

 

[blueblue]

Agreed, I think the ship has sailed on a renewal of his contract, so I do think the swap deal with Minteh will happen in the next couple of days.

If we play in the same style in the forthcoming season, he is going to be a huge loss and will need to be replaced.

Strangely with DCL it may suit both clubs to let that deal until after July 1st.
We are being told Everton are safe for PSR in this year and the sale of Godfrey will also help.
A sale of 30m or more for DCL would be a big help for our books for next year and the chance we may also sell one or two others as well. It would also help Newcastle not to have any additional purchase before June.

The only problem may be Newcastle needing to sell Minteh and we not being able to buy before the 30th..... if we are trying to sign Minted that is.

 

[Raino85]

I don’t know what Lyon’s game is with their mega offer but if it’s in writing it would satisfy the definition of an arms length transaction for Minteh as under clause A of the rules it would evidence a competitively determined price.

I thought this myself, if everyone's been given a bit of a warning in terms of valuation and 'swaps'.
If Newcastle can prove...or justify that Minteh is worth the £40m by showing there was interest from elsewhere at a similar price, the PL wont have a foot to stand on.

 

[Amokachi1995]

I suspect we may still need to sell, or at least given the unresolved interest issue would be wise to sell, but what we’ve done with the Dobbin and Godfrey sales is at least spin the narrative we don’t need to sell, which is a helpful upper hand.

I always felt the need for a big sale had a fair bit to do with cash flow which the Friedkin injection seems to have resolved.

Obviously a big sale would be belt and braces from a PSR perspective, de-risking any accountancy balls up.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

I thought this myself, if everyone's been given a bit of a warning in terms of valuation and 'swaps'.
If Newcastle can prove...or justify that Minteh is worth the £40m by showing there was interest from elsewhere at a similar price, the PL wont have a foot to stand on.

It’s certainly a very convenient thing for Lyon to have done. Offering full asking price when the seller is the one under pressure is…interesting.