Everton Summer transfers 2021

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Barnfred 55 said:
I am surprised that the EU have allowed this to happen on their turf. Competition and fair play represent one of their key pillars.

I fully get that clubs shouldn't be allowed to overspend and make persistent huge losses that are not sustainable. But why are rich owners prevented from investing money into the game if they wish to?. As long as it's invested in equity or at least a commitment to convert to equity at a future date then what's the problem.

The sport is full of rich people taking money out of the game, elite players and agents for example. Why on earth would you want to stop other rich people replacing those funds?
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In fairness though the EU's court (CAS a European court) has thrown it out. Anyone who has any involvement of the EU's anti-competitive regulations around the procurement processes etc will know FFP just won't stand up in that legal framework.

There may be a question around the PL rules, as I'm not entirely sure where the highest sovereign court would be, and if it's still the European court of appeal.
 
If Mina was to be sold, it wouldn’t be for less than 20 million imo. We’d simply be better off keeping him if nobody is willing to pay that. He’s not gona be let go for 15 million.

I’d say 15 million is Holgate’s asking price, not Mina’s.
 

Theoneandonly said:
To be honest I'm all for giving our youth prospects a chance and my way of thinking was Coleman is our captain so will be playing quite regularly, Kenny had a fairly successful run with Celtic last season, them two alternating with someone younger proving depth such as Markelo. I thought would see us through.

However if we can add someone better, then why not.
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Theoneandonly said:
Keane is definitely not leaving. Holgate is seen as a backup.
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lol I dont think 90% of fans really think Keane would be sold.

The dreadful manager puts paid to any progressive hopes for quality signings.

catcherintherye said:
Yes good post.

I have written a reasonable amount about this from the early outset of the crisis (when Corona Virus first broke out in March) that you would see some quite acute deflationary pressures and than this was unlikely to have peaked last summer. Indeed the inability of football to take quite radical action (i.e to find a collective solution to reduce wage bills) or alternatively formally announce an end to FFP (rather than at present a postponement) have been incredibly short sighted and added to the problem.

The shock of this years accounts will lead to problems, while next years will be even worse. I expect next summer to see a bigger dip. If that's the case you then start to wonder what 3 consecutive years of decline has to the longer term outlook. Either way though it will be an industry that is used to almost unparalleled YOY growth experience a sharp, and potentially prolonged decline and not knowing how to react. Some clubs have depended on transfer revenue to subsidise the whole business who are in deep trouble. At a bigger level in truth entire leagues have depended on it and the biggest buyer the PL is just not playing ball currently (as well as the elite teams). So you've got this horrendous situation currently there's little business done. Even if you have money to spend nd are one of the few, you would be wise just to sit on it and make teams sweat as the auction trends downwards.

Take Sancho for example, last summer Dortmund pitched him at initially 150 and then wanted 120. United were willing to go to 90m ish and pulled away. Pre Covid the general perception would have been-especially for a young player that his value would have risen, even if it was from the United valuation. He has lost around 20% on United's valuation of last summer, and that's an offer Dortmund were not willing to entertain last summer. You are looking at a 35% reduction on their price last summer, and probably 50% on what they wanted to sell him for pre Covid. And this is for very much blue chip, premium footballer, who is of an age and quality that is likely to outlive the decline and be able to sold on at the other side. If his price is down 20+% what do we think about the rest of the market?

Football culturally has moved to an approach in recent years where sellers have a price, and in truth there has increasingly been negative pressure as the window goes on. It's almost like the big buyers make their move first and slowly price start to fall as the realisation sets in for teams. What I've said a few times, is that football's eco-structure did not want this deflation. To them the game "worked" before. Agents, advisors, players, scouts, regulators all knew where they were. Inflation was consistent and relatively under control and for those in the game they couldn't see a world where prices tumbled.

As for our part in it, it's pretty hard. We were performing badly before the crisis. Our few saleable assets will have lost value (as we are seeing with Kean). I think Brands is a good negotiator on the buying side and will take things to the wire with players. I honestly wouldn't rule out Lenglet arriving on loan (or something equally mad like that). Sides are struggling though. Some reds I speak to are increasingly angry they can't buy anyone until they sell, and that essentially despite touting their players out, at present there have been no buyers. Even with acceptable payment packages, nobody wants Williams, Phillips, Shaqiri, Wilson, Origi etc for even £10m (and that's inclusive of bonuses). Maybe that changes as the window goes on, but I suspect there is more pressure on fees as time goes by.

It's an interesting window anyway. I still think we may see 1 big out here (probably 1 of the front 3) with Benitez building an attack around the 2 that are left. That will probably help some smart recruitment in other areas.
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Id actually be happy if we just focused on offloading players while Benitez is manager...

its not as if we will achieve anything with him in charge so we may be better served just treading water and ridding ourselves of FFP concerns.

The signing of Dumfries would be along these lines i think...budget.


ValBlue said:
If we really want a defender honestly why not go for Zouma. Would be a fraction of the price and the fans already like him. He’s not 30 and wouldn’t cost an extraordinary amount (if you believe the reports)
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Because hes not very good?
 

Barnfred 55 said:
Even 35m is bad enough. Not when we don't have a bottomless pit to dip into.

We have to spend our money wisely. this isn't.
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Agreed,

I didn't see the conference with the manager yesterday but I have read quite a bit of what he said since then and this transfer would seem to contradict everything he said... apart from showing ambition.

I think it is unlikely there is any truth in this and certainly at the figures being mentioned.
 

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