Everton Summer transfers 2021

[ForeverBlue92]

I see what you’re saying, I do. Guess I’m trying to look at things as, a lad who cost 20mil and is experienced isn’t guaranteed to succeed just as a young lad isn’t. I understand completely that the former is more likely to, but at the end of the day, if this is the lad the club want - it’s who they’ll go for and they’ll have reasons. Trying to be optimistic

My point is not every decent experienced player costs £20+ million.

West Ham signed Coufal for £5.4 million who was an established Czech international - for the same price (or likely less) we would be after a player with less than 20 senior games under his belt.

Its a massive risk and not the right one for me given our current options at RB.

 

[Zatara]

Because anyone who's 18-21 is instantly hyped up in our fanbase and anyone 28-30 is instantly crap / on the decline.

None of us know who this lad is and chances are he would be absolutely bossing it for Rangers/Scotland if he was ready to be doing the business at a top 10 PL club as a starting RB.

Take the Zat glasses off and look at the reality of the situation and our dire need of an instant quality RB not a young kid who will need time to develop.

"Take the Zat glasses off"

Ive actually posted a few times that I thought we should be signing an immediate starter in place of Coleman.

Right back is a key position and, as with left back it makes sense to have signed Digne and then go for a young player in Nkounkou behind him.

As @BlueToff says, the planning isnt there.

In addition, we went for Lenglet (left footed, left sided centre back) and then our 2nd choice was Mina -- two totally different players...as @BlueToff highlighted, weve gone from Dumfries to Patterson.

In fact, Aarons--Dumfries--Patterson all three different profiles of player. Its bizarre.

On the other hand, @Flynnthistle and @Eggs make some good points. Young, high potential player whose only not first choice because hes behind Rangers Captain, Tavernier. Thats the same Tavernier who scored 17 and 19 goals in 2 seasons from right back

Patterson has 2 Scotland caps and has apparently done very well for Rangers. The only thing im surprised about is that we didnt go for him weeks ago and/or we werent in for Livramento before he moved.

Giving Coleman the extension may have been due to Benitez telling Brands he wants to keep him around while bringing in a younger profile player.

All told, id say for £5mil it seems to be a positive move from us.

If it took eg £10m (8+ add-ons) + sell-on % + a straight loan (no option) on Branthwaite or Gordon to get Patterson what would we think? This is just a guess from a Rangers fan on Twitter of what they might consider so wondered how we would see it.

Id sell Keane and/or Holgate and promote Branthwaite.

If we dont do that then Id happily loan him to Rangers...same goes for Gordon going on loan.

With the caveat that they will play a certain amount of games each or Rangers lose some of the add ons from the deal.

 

[ValBlue]

My point is not every decent experienced player costs £20+ million.

West Ham signed Coufal for £5.4 million who was an established Czech international - for the same price (or likely less) we would be after a player with less than 20 senior games under his belt.

Its a massive risk and not the right one for me given our current options at RB.

Yeah. We’re supposed to have scouts all over the gaff too to spot those exact players

 

[Eggs]

Get Patterson, he is going to be on the same level as his fellow national team fullbacks soon

….he’s a young Scots lad playing as a professional for the best team in Scotland. I wouldn’t expect him to be coming through the ranks at Real Madrid, he can only do what he can do.

Anyway, Rangers play at a higher level than Sligo & Sligo’s full back hasn’t been too shabby.

 

[Zatara]

My point is not every decent experienced player costs £20+ million.

West Ham signed Coufal for £5.4 million who was an established Czech international - for the same price (or likely less) we would be after a player with less than 20 senior games under his belt.

Its a massive risk and not the right one for me given our current options at RB.

Would you prefer Tierney or Coufal?

Because if this boy is the new Tierney and takes a season to become first choice then its fine with me.

We wont be troubling the top 4 so its a good strategy to build using youth

 

[yeatston]

How long we’ve needed one has no bearing on whether this would be a good move. Coleman is the first choice now. If this kid is at least good enough to be better than Holgate/Kenny as Coleman’s backup he would be a good addition. If there is any legitimate chance that he could win the starting job this year then it’s a master stroke.

He's already by far a better right back than Kenny/Holgate & i don't go along with some of the comments that he would play 2nd fiddle to Coleman for 1 or 2 seasons... i get it he's only played 20 games which isn't alot but ive seen all 20 of them & based on what ive seen he's going to be a top player.. he's got all the attributes required to be very good modern attacking full back... its just a case of when he takes Taverniers place in the team.
Im a Rangers fan & you wont find a single fan who will be happy to cash in on him

 

[brieverton]

He made the Scotland squad at 19, maybe that doesn't say much but I'd prefer we made signings of this profile. Little to no risk for the fee. I would be fine if it was a season of transition with Coleman.

If he is good enough he will emerge sooner rather than later. In general players are held back a bit too much now in my view. There are 23 and 24 year old still being called young.

 

[ToffeeTim]

….he’s a young Scots lad playing as a professional for the best team in Scotland. I wouldn’t expect him to be coming through the ranks at Real Madrid, he can only do what he can do.

Anyway, Rangers play at a higher level than Sligo & Sligo’s full back hasn’t been too shabby.

If he is who we see as our long term successor at RB then 10m-12m or whatever is needed, is not a big investment. The question for me is whether he is currently ready, but I've liked the little I've seen of him last season.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Would you prefer Tierney or Coufal?

Because if this boy is the new Tierney and takes a season to become first choice then its fine with me.

We wont be troubling the top 4 so its a good strategy to build using youth

He could be the new Tierney or he could be the new Kenny mate.

JP Kissock/ George Green/Jose Baxter were the new Rooneys.

Not a problem with these sorts of signings when we have a solid first choice like Digne - if you want Coleman out the team ASAP then you dont want this type of signing imo.

 

[Zatara]

He could be the new Tierney or he could be the new Kenny mate.

JP Kissock/ George Green/Jose Baxter were the new Rooneys.

Not a problem with these sorts of signings when we have a solid first choice like Digne - if you want Coleman out the team ASAP then you dont want this type of signing imo.

But Kenny didnt do well in Scotland for Celtic while Patterson seemed to smash the league and european games and on the strength of it got 2 caps and went to the euros.

 

[BlueToff]

Well you're not because you're not suggesting any names that fit your realistic and logical opinions, are you?

Dumfries and Patterson are cheap RB's with no PL experience who both look fast, athletic, attacking style with defensive skill to be determined.

Oh the old 'suggest some names or you can't have a point' tactic? Thought you were better than that?

Okay, I like Kevin Mbabu from Wolfsburg. I'm not sure he'd be available for under £15m, but think he'd be a good acquisition. It looks like the opening £5m bid for Patterson has been rejected, so that's going to end up being higher (or perhaps built on different payment structures). Wolfsburg have Baku so could be open to selling.

Could we look at a loan, option to buy for someone like Odriozola at Real Madrid? Has plenty of pace and tenacity. Not found his feet at Madrid but they will need rid for their finances. Surely an option like that isn't a stop-gap? He's 25 I think.

Could an option like Dubois from Lille be looked at? Wouldn't be my first choice, but again, in his prime years, plenty of top-level experience and due to the financial difficulties in French football right now, there could be an option there.

I'm not the person tasked with our recruitment but those are three players off the top of my head that I have watched enough of down the years to judge might help us.

I also would be fine with Patterson signing, it could be a really good addition. It does also suggest though that Coleman is still seen as first choice, and that's my issue with it. Because we're two/three years on from needing a player who could have started to phase Coleman out gradually.

 

[hktoffee]

£5m worth a pint. Rather these kind of signing than £30m on Aarons.

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

Lads were skint

 

[ForeverBlue92]

But Kenny didnt do well in Scotland for Celtic while Patterson seemed to smash the league and european games and on the strength of it got 2 caps and went to the euros.

Come off it mate you likely only heard about him today when Everton were linked lol

 

[T LEAFE]

£5m worth a pint. Rather these kind of signing than £30m on Aarons.

I begrudge paying £5 for a pint never mind £5m