Everton Summer transfers 2021

[BlueToff]

"Take the Zat glasses off"

Ive actually posted a few times that I thought we should be signing an immediate starter in place of Coleman.

Right back is a key position and, as with left back it makes sense to have signed Digne and then go for a young player in Nkounkou behind him.

As @BlueToff says, the planning isnt there.

In addition, we went for Lenglet (left footed, left sided centre back) and then our 2nd choice was Mina -- two totally different players...as @BlueToff highlighted, weve gone from Dumfries to Patterson.

In fact, Aarons--Dumfries--Patterson all three different profiles of player. Its bizarre.

On the other hand, @Flynnthistle and @Eggs make some good points. Young, high potential player whose only not first choice because hes behind Rangers Captain, Tavernier. Thats the same Tavernier who scored 17 and 19 goals in 2 seasons from right back

Patterson has 2 Scotland caps and has apparently done very well for Rangers. The only thing im surprised about is that we didnt go for him weeks ago and/or we werent in for Livramento before he moved.

Giving Coleman the extension may have been due to Benitez telling Brands he wants to keep him around while bringing in a younger profile player.

All told, id say for £5mil it seems to be a positive move from us.




Id sell Keane and/or Holgate and promote Branthwaite.

If we dont do that then Id happily loan him to Rangers...same goes for Gordon going on loan.

With the caveat that they will play a certain amount of games each or Rangers lose some of the add ons from the deal.

The planning/profile thing of players on our lists (from what we can gather) baffles me, Zat.

I've mentioned this before, but even with Godfrey, it's a bit mad. We wanted (and nearly got) Gabriel, a left-footed centre-back. We ended up with Godfrey, a right-footed player who had often played right side of the defence for Norwich too. Now I'm perfectly happy we have Godfrey, but even that isn't the same profile (and we still badly lack a left-footed CB, unless they are going to trust Branthwaite - which is fine)

 

[Eggs]

He could be the new Tierney or he could be the new Kenny mate.

JP Kissock/ George Green/Jose Baxter were the new Rooneys.

Not a problem with these sorts of signings when we have a solid first choice like Digne - if you want Coleman out the team ASAP then you dont want this type of signing imo.

…sorry but that ridiculous. You are saying only buy promising youngsters if they are back up for established players. We’ve spent lots of money bringing oven-ready failures to the club, arguably our most productive signings in recent times have been the cheapest,

I think you were the same poster yesterday who said we shouldn’t look for a goalscoring winger, I might be heading for the rum again.

 

[BlueToff]

Get your concerns mate.
Every man and his dog knows we need a right back , have done for 4 years.
We dont know how this manager see's it. Maybe he knows Coleman is coming to the end but is still an option for him , and maybe he's see's reliable cover in Godfrey & Holgate while he has the opportunity of easing the young lad in.

Is it my ( or our ) way we would do it ?
Obviously not we all want an ovenready world class full back , but that is going to cost big money ......oh erm money !
That stuff we cant spend atm.

Oh I know we haven't got the money for a world class full-back. We haven't even got the money for Dumfries who is by no means that, though would have been a starting option.

So look, if this is how it is, then fine, it's a position filled and if the development is right it's going to be fine.

But I'm not sure us spending £5m+ on a 19-year-old who's played fewer than 19 games at senior club level is what we would have envisaged as being our RB solution. And again, I just completely question the strategy. He's nothing like Dumfries in terms of age, experience, even physicality. It's like just picking names out of a hat.

But look, if he comes then obviously it's better than nobody in, assuming we can shift Kenny then we're probably in the same position but with a younger player who we see as being able to develop rather than Kenny who we probably know isn't going to be up to it.

Still leaves us with Seamus as our first choice though and I can't see how anybody can be happy with that. Like I said, this is the type of signing that should have happened two years ago, when we went and got Sidibe in on loan.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

…sorry but that ridiculous. You are saying only buy promising youngsters if they are back up for established players. We’ve spent lots of money bringing oven-ready failures to the club, arguably our most productive signings in recent times have been the cheapest,

I think you were the same poster yesterday who said we shouldn’t look for a goalscoring winger, I might be heading for the rum again.

Its not ridiculous the PL is a different beast these days and throwing some 18-19 year old with less than 20 appearances in a sub standard league into the 1st team from day one and expecting the level of performances required week in week out is fanciful.

 

[blue to the bone]

…sorry but that ridiculous. You are saying only buy promising youngsters if they are back up for established players. We’ve spent lots of money bringing oven-ready failures to the club, arguably our most productive signings in recent times have been the cheapest,

I think you were the same poster yesterday who said we shouldn’t look for a goalscoring winger, I might be heading for the rum again.

Eggs . You are a wise enough man . But I'll give you a small bit of advice. Ignore him !

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

Because anyone who's 18-21 is instantly hyped up in our fanbase and anyone 28-30 is instantly crap / on the decline.

None of us know who this lad is and chances are he would be absolutely bossing it for Rangers/Scotland if he was ready to be doing the business at a top 10 PL club as a starting RB.

Take the Zat glasses off and look at the reality of the situation and our dire need of an instant quality RB not a young kid who will need time to develop.

So you’re moaning about people making assumptions about players’ ability based on their age, while assuming a young player wouldn’t be good enough for our first team for a few years?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

So you’re moaning about people making assumptions about players’ ability based on their age, while assuming a young player wouldn’t be good enough for our first team for a few years?

Because its a realistic assumption not one based off "He's the next Tierney deffo m8 because he plays in Scotland".

 

[yeatston]

I can't see Rangers accepting 5million or anything close to this

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

Because its a realistic assumption not one based off "He's the next Tierney deffo m8 because he plays in Scotland".

Who has made that assumption?! Every day this thread is you windmilling punches at about 20 straw men. You just seem to want to be contrarian for the sake of it.

Bottom line: We can’t afford to shell out big for a well-known player. That leaves us the choice of young unknowns, old has-beens or loans. IF this bid is true we’re bidding for the former, who we think can do a job for the team now. Given your insistence that the current management be given a chance, why wouldn’t you back this move?!

 

[Eggs]

Its not ridiculous the PL is a different beast these days and throwing some 18-19 year old with less than 20 appearances in a sub standard league into the 1st team from day one and expecting the level of performances required week in week out is fanciful.

….ah, I see. ok Fella.

 

[COYBL25]

Because its a realistic assumption not one based off "He's the next Tierney deffo m8 because he plays in Scotland".

I think you`re missing the point ( again ).

People aren`t saying or expecting a 19 yr old kid from the SPL, to come straight in and start tearing up the league, but at 5mil, it`s worth taking that chance, especially if he is that highly rated.

We are one Coleman injury away from either Kenny ( shudders ), Holgate ( shudders again )or Godfrey having to play at right back, as we have been for a few seasons now.

 

[blue to the bone]

Tom would do well for rangers!

 

[milto]

5m with add-ons would be decent good age

Was thinking the same ?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

I think you`re missing the point ( again ).

People aren`t saying or expecting a 19 yr old kid from the SPL, to come straight in and start tearing up the league, but at 5mil, it`s worth taking that chance, especially if he is that highly rated.

We are one Coleman injury away from either Kenny ( shudders ), Holgate ( shudders again )or Godfrey having to play at right back, as we have been for a few seasons now.

But Coleman isn't good enough to be 1st choice all season - and if he is first choice we finish mid table and if we finish mid table you all will want Benitez's head.

 

[COYBL25]

But Coleman isn't good enough to start the season - and if he is first choice we finish mid table and if we finish mid table you all will want Benitez's head.

Yet we’ve started the season and had a comfortable home win and a respectable draws against a million miles an hour, doped up Leeds team, with Coleman playing in both games.