Everton Summer transfers 2021

[Bluestar]

I don't know if this is tongue in cheek or what!

There is a long list of things Brands should be doing or should have done, but he took over an absolute mess!
We have barely had any sort of sellible assets over his time because of the Walsh era and the small ones we might of had we cant sell now as there is no value in the market!

There is also the obvious glaringness of other bits butting in, not necessarily just in terms of who we get in as manager, but do you genuinely think Unsie would be in a job if he wisent a top blue!

AZ & PSV both took time......... and things like FFP & Covid have definitely slowed that down for us!

Brands has not covered himself in glory though. Gomes, Iwobi, Delph, Keane, Kean, King all his signings. Still no right back after three years. We need to see more like Godfrey coming through and Gray is a step in the right direction.

 

[blueblueskies]

Genuinely all of this was said about us in 2017.

And when Spurs sold Gareth Bale to Madrid

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

We are not buying Cunha
Step away from the Airfix models guys, the fumes are starting to get to you.

If only we were buying Cunha though. I guess, if there's any truth, it will be like Correra - probably trying to position a potential deal should we manage any outgoings.

If the interest is genuine, he is twice the player Corerra is: faster, more aggressive and uses the ball better. Plus is about 5 years younger. We had that weird message the other week about money being available for 'young talent' - surely this guy would count!

 

[jazzy]

I think you'll remember that both Alardyce and Moshiri wanted him. Incredibly Moshiri was in on that deal...which shows you what a back seat driver he is.

So when it's a bad signing under Brands ( Iwobi) the DoF is responsible.
Under Walsh its down to the manager and Moshiri.
Dave's on the beach with his flip flops.
IMO both Walsh and Brands are terrible DoFs.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Brands has not covered himself in glory though. Gomes, Iwobi, Delph, Keane, Kean, King all his signings. Still no right back after three years. We need to see more like Godfrey coming through and Gray is a step in the right direction.

Keane was Walsh. But Brands must have had a say in the inexplicable decision to give Keane a bumper new contract while Mina runs his down - which is as bad as signing him in the first place.

 

[Bluestar]

Keane was Walsh. But Brands must have had a say in the inexplicable decision to give Keane a bumper new contract while Mina runs his down - which is as bad as signing him in the first place.

Exactly. Brands resigned him.

 

[catcherintherye]

Brands was touted as the experienced, steady DOF with a track record of sustained profitability in transfer dealings, a network of contacts, and know-how with regard to scouting, talent spotting and development.

We fell into the trap of recruiting him based on prowess in a distinctly middle of the road, average league environment. If he had done it in Holland + France for example, that might have been something.

I always felt Walsh was in over his head immediately and never felt comfortable in the role. He never worked as a DOF previously.

Brands on the other hand, is or was adept at self promotion which has now fallen spectacularly flat. For me, he has been the much more glaring failure of the two.

If Walsh was too expansive in his approach, I would say most have probably been a bit underwhelmed with the caution of Brands. We seem to have let consecutive managers dictate the approach. I would have liked to have seen more younger players being bought in.

 

[Toffeelover]

absolutely not but what essentially has changed, in spite of all the hundreds of millions pumped in?

What I want is him to use his well documented business success and intelligence and apply that logic to running Everton. Leave his Toy Set mentality a the doors and let the business be successful by making the right decisions at present and on current showing he has achieved nothing.

Well he smartened up GP, got a new stadium on the way, cannot help he brings in Ancellotti and gets 2 fingers. We now own the Liver Building. What more do you want.

 

[Toffeelover]

Couldn't agree more. But there are bargains to be had out there for good players who aren't quite top notch. A lot of clubs are struggling and need to sell.

Aston Villa may have lost their best player, but they can only play him once. They have bought 3 quality players with money left over, and now have a better squad than they had before. They possibly paid over the odds for the 2 they bought from Premier clubs, because they're not in such a pickle. But some European clubs are and if they had a decent scouting system could have got similar quality for £10m less per player. Like they did with Bailey.

But we need names?

 

[Barnfred 55]

Genuinely all of this was said about us in 2017.

We could have gone for different players and made it work. Who was happy with the business we did that summer. We were crying out for a striker and a left back and bought 4 for the same position. Terrible window. Just because we messed it up once doesn't mean it's a bad plan.

Plus it's a buyers market now except for the top players. Completely different situation to 2017

 

[Barnfred 55]

Would try to get Richarlison on a longer deal

I think we should have sold Keane last summer or January while he was in the England squad.

He, and a couple of others for £10-20mil would have set us up nicely this window...

That opportunity has gone now

 

[MikeH72]

We could have gone for different players and made it work. Who was happy with the business we did that summer. We were crying out for a striker and a left back and bought 4 for the same position. Terrible window. Just because we messed it up once doesn't mean it's a bad plan.

Plus it's a buyers market now except for the top players. Completely different situation to 2017

Loads of people were happy with it at the time, because we convinced ourselves that Sandro was gonna be boss and Rooney wasn’t absolutely finished. Similar to how people might have jumped the gun with the likes of Bailey and Ashley Young at Villa. You just don’t know that they’re going to be able to effectively replace one of the best midfielders in the league.

 

[Bluestar]

If Walsh was too expansive in his approach, I would say most have probably been a bit underwhelmed with the caution of Brands. We seem to have let consecutive managers dictate the approach. I would have liked to have seen more younger players being bought in.

We seemed to abandon that plan for Ancelotti. Took a gamble and it backfired spectacularly. We need to develop a plan and stick to it.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Got to say I’ve thought this myself about Villa , let’s see where they end up .

I think they've bought well.

Interesting to see how they set up when Watkins is back. Could be 442. Think they'll be involved in lots of exciting games

 

[MKEvertonian]

Apparently linked with Malang Sarr...