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Everton Summer transfers 2021

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He may be bang average.......compared to THE best players on the planet.

Yet he is better than every one of our wingers/right backs/right wing backs, by a mile.

He has loads of european experience, is not on THAT big wages, manager knows him well, he is also close to James, and he plays in 3 positions at a CL level.

But ye.....lets not get him, we only want Messi level players.

We moan about our squad depth and options for different formations....then moan about players that would help with both of those problems.
£100k a week is a lot for squad depth. Thats how we ended up in the situation we're in.
 
Really suprised that Brands hasent been back to one of his old clubs - AZ to have a proper look at some of there talent

I'm not Brands' biggest fan but to be fair to him I think he knows that league is a crock - at least that's what I gathered when he spoke about the prices of Lozano and Bergwign when they both still played in the Netherlands.

If those clubs can afford to charge big prices he's going to look elsewhere.

There are some very good players in Holland. Brands even name checked Gravenberch a few weeks ago.

He hasnt even brought in a single Dutch player since joining which seems odd to me.

Anyone could see Ziyech and Klaasen were massively overrated. Its a hard league to read but he should be able to bring in one player lol
 

£100k a week is a lot for squad depth. Thats how we ended up in the situation we're in.

Well he would not be exacty a "squad" player only.

He has started 31 times for Real Madrid this season.....im pretty sure he will be one of our best players and start more than he doesnt.

He improves the squad as in pushes Coleman & Iwobi down the pecking order.
 
We need to offload a lot of the tat Brands has loaded us with this summer

Bernard: £4-5 million
Iwobi: £12-15 million
Slowmes: £12-15 million
Delph- give him away
Kean: £40-45 million to PSG

Add in Kenny and Toshun hopefully punted and Bolasie/Walcott/Besic out of contract hopefully we can finally sort out the wage bill.
Bernard, agree to let go but definitely think we could get closer to 10m in a deal with add ons.

Iwobi, let's face it, he won't be going anywhere. Maybe out on loan but unless a good offer of 25-30m comes in the club won't sell esp not for what you've suggested.

Gomes, I'd keep, good squad player and has quality when he turns up or has the right players around him.

I think Delph will stay too, can't see many offers with his injury record and the club probably see him as a useful squad player/ leader.

Kean is nailed on to go think he hates here and his fat agent is seeing dollar signs. Would be happy with 45m to reinvest but will prob be around what we paid plus 5m and add ons maybe.

Kenny is up in the air depending on who Celtic get as their new manager however he's doing well there so should get a move and we could potentially get 5-6m deal there, 2/3m upfront with add ons etc.

Tosun I think will go for a minimal fee, 5/6m top but prob not even.

Probably looking at 55m raised from that bunch which is good imo. I'd like to see us buy one top player with that, another Richarlison type signing.
 
There are some very good players in Holland. Brands even name checked Gravenberch a few weeks ago.

He hasnt even brought in a single Dutch player since joining which seems odd to me.

Anyone could see Ziyech and Klaasen were massively overrated. Its a hard league to read but he should be able to bring in one player lol
He also said Lozano was only worth
20mil max after Napoli paid around 40mil for
Him.

But yes I thought he may have bought the odd youngster From Holland. You’d think he would have big knowledge of talented youngsters coming through
 
Well he would not be exacty a "squad" player only.

He has started 31 times for Real Madrid this season.....im pretty sure he will be one of our best players and start more than he doesnt.

He improves the squad as in pushes Coleman & Iwobi down the pecking order.
Again would he be more suited to playing Right wing back?
 
Well he would not be exacty a "squad" player only.

He has started 31 times for Real Madrid this season.....im pretty sure he will be one of our best players and start more than he doesnt.

He improves the squad as in pushes Coleman & Iwobi down the pecking order.
But the fact he'll be 30 at the point we signed him surely counts against him there? We can't fill the first team with 30 year olds, it's not a good plan. The suggestion has been that we're looking at a long term right back like Aarons. If we're looking at a 30 year old on £100k a week instead of finding a long term solution then I think it's a terrible move. If we're looking at both then it seems an extravagance but it depends how much money we have to play with I suppose. Either way, I don't think questioning whether it would be a good signing is particularly weird really. I recall a similar debate about Delph, and we all know how that ended up.
 

Again would he be more suited to playing Right wing back?

He is very versatile down that right.

18 Starts at right back
11 Starts at right wing
2 at rightmid.

He has only been a sub 3 times for Real madrid all season, started 31 games.

I think many are under-rating him and what he offers.

If a CL team play him this nnay times...maybe, just maybe he is good enough for Everton!?!
 
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He may be bang average.......compared to THE best players on the planet.

Yet he is better than every one of our wingers/right backs/right wing backs, by a mile.

He has loads of european experience, is not on THAT big wages, manager knows him well, he is also close to James, and he plays in 3 positions at a CL level.

But ye.....lets not get him, we only want Messi level players.

We moan about our squad depth and options for different formations....then moan about players that would help with both of those problems.
That's a fairly extreme viewpoint your taking there. We are not trying to sign Messi level players, why would we be? all i'm saying is i don't think he is much of an upgrade on what we have and that's before you even mention his age. IF like @Zatara suggests and he is coming in to play some sort of rotational role with a younger signing like Aarons then i can see some possible sense to that.
 
But the fact he'll be 30 at the point we signed him surely counts against him there? We can't fill the first team with 30 year olds, it's not a good plan. The suggestion has been that we're looking at a long term right back like Aarons. If we're looking at a 30 year old on £100k a week instead of finding a long term solution then I think it's a terrible move. If we're looking at both then it seems an extravagance but it depends how much money we have to play with I suppose. Either way, I don't think questioning whether it would be a good signing is particularly weird really. I recall a similar debate about Delph, and we all know how that ended up.

I see both sides, I want both. A right back long term & a right winger, we need both.

Vazquez could also be that right winger, so its 1 player to go into 2 rolls really.

The age thing to a point is an issue. But we need players that have played European football too, experience of top level.

His numbers are impressive, he starts every game for Real Madrid....im sure he would be fine for us.
 
That's a fairly extreme viewpoint your taking there. We are not trying to sign Messi level players, why would we be? all i'm saying is i don't think he is much of an upgrade on what we have and that's before you even mention his age. IF like @Zatara suggests and he is coming in to play some sort of rotational role with a younger signing like Aarons then i can see some possible sense to that.

Mate, he startes every game for Real Madrid. Im sure he is better than Iwobi & Coleman!!!
 

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