Everton Summer transfers 2021

[Zatara]

It's not, actually.

We just have to be prudent with cash - every club does right now. We lost a lot of money last year, and relied on a massive cash injection from the owner. We're paying for a new stadium. We still don't know for sure when we'll have matchday revenue back. We still don't know if we'll have Europe and what income that will bring in. There's also PL FFP to consider, and UEFA FFP if we get into Europe, of course.

So anybody thinking we have a massive pot it frankly ignoring reality.

That's not to say we have 'no money'. I wouldn't call 30/40m 'no money'. It just means we'll likely have to make that buy 2 players, rather than 1 - and that's on the recruitment team to find those players and negotiate those fees (helped by the fact that every team has been hit by COVID too so at least selling clubs can't demand completely mental - relatively speaking - amounts). We then have some help by big contracts ending, and hopefully getting a fair number of players off the books too, at least one of which (Kean) should bring in good money.

The Athletic were one of them.

The Athletic lads don't chat wham. They'll have been conservative in their estimates, perhaps, but didn't actually put a figure out. Their sources come from the club or elements around the club - a lot of agents. As far as Everton goes, they're probably the most reliable there is right now along with the usual ones.

If anybody's expecting us - right now - to have £100m to flop about, then you're being daft.

No fans in the crowd, bar three games, for a year. It'll be 17 months by the time they're back (at the earliest).

I'm not saying we're skint. I'm making the point that we're going to have to make £50m go further than spending it on one player.

We spent £60m last year on fees - and that was probably too much, but worth it for what we got.

We added James on big wages/signing on fee. Allan won't be getting paid peanuts. Doucoure a decent whack.

We'll be able to offset that by the tosh that's going out of the door this summer on frees and, fingers crossed, adding Bernard and Tosun to that (over 200k a week right there saved).

Then we'll have Kean to sell.

Fact remains, we don't 'need' to spend £100m to get the players in we need to improve us. We've seen what £60m can do. The aim will be to do that again, and if we need to spend more then we'll have to hope those sales/cuts to the squad have been made, but the point of Brands' job is to kind of get the best we can for the cheapest amount.

There's also the small matter of a 52,000-seater stadium we're building.

Blah blah blah
Same things that were said last summer

Let’s see. We have a billionaire accountant who got 30mil of his mate just to get first dips on the stadium. FFP might not even be a thing this year.

Last year we finished 12th and signed James Rodriguez, Allan from European regulars and Coppa Italia winners Napoli, Doucoure and Godfrey.

We were in for one other player that turned us down - Hojbjerg, because he wanted London and Spurs.

Gabriel would probably have picked Arsenal over us too, but ultimately we pulled out before that choice had to be made because Lille wanted too much. Remember this time last year we had that deal all but agreed.

I don't think we're going to find it hard to attract better players than Coleman, Iwobi or Gomes, which is what we need right now, but finishing as high up the league as possible will help.

No, realistic.

I also know that we don't need to spend £120m on three players to get better than what we have or bring in players that will improve us. It's on the club to get the best deal possible. Not doing that in the first place is what got Walsh sacked and hasn't helped the process over the last few years either.

And we spent £60m and still left ourselves short in three key positions, one of which we've filled by bringing in a 29-yr-old from Bournemouth on a 5-month contract for a nominal fee of below £1m and pretty low wages, relatively speaking.

If you've read my comments about Brands you'd know I'm not his biggest fan.

But I'm not thinking it's realistic for us to spunk loads of dosh this summer. It's not happening.

FWIW, I don't think our outlay last summer was big. People keep banging on like it was.

It was bigger than expected, maybe, but let's face it as we've seen it went nowhere near far enough, even though each deal we completed has proved good.

£60m in fees last summer.

In summer 2019 we spent around £120m

In summer 2018 we spent around £70m (on fees).

In summer 2017 we spent around £130m - that's not including Rooney's signing on fee or wages - and then on top of that £47m in the January of 2018.

Compared to previous windows, last summer's spend was small.

We aren't going to be in the market for £70m players. For one, they're all at Champions League clubs. So it's not happening.

£30m could get you Leon Bailey. Probably change to spare, tbh. He's a brilliant attacking player that would add exactly what we need to our front line. So that would kick us on.

We got Allan and Doucoure for a combined £40m. Have they not helped push us on? Keep in mind they've hardly played together since December, too.

Would £20m on a Dumfries from PSV, or Mbabu from Wolfsburg not be a vast improvement on what we have at right-back?

How about in midfield? What about £30-35m on a Fabian Ruiz type. Say he's a far bit better than Gomes.

This is all a good analysis of the football clubs ability to spend for itself.

However there are two key factors which you havent included in your analysis.

1: USM have made a fortune during the pandemic as i posted almost 12months ago (and continue to do so i imagine). If Moshiri wants to spend then he will be able to do so to achieve his ultimate target of building the club into a powerhouse. This has nothing to do with the clubs ability to generate money itself...at the moment.


2: FFP is the one hurdle to overcome. Can this be achieved by the USM naming rights and/or Moshiri's loans being converted into shares? Im not sure...


As i said, youre spot on about the club, but those two elements need to be included.

 

[Zatara]

It's weird though because i'm not sure you need both your centre halves to be rapid to play a high line. You can't do it with Keane and Mina but Godfrey must be as quick as any defender in the league, if you use him on the cover with one of the others as the ball winner it could work fine. The fact we don't do it suggests it's not on the agenda I think.

Turn the question on its head.

In a high line would you prefer both centre backs to be quick, or just one?

If we played a bit higher then we could use Godfrey as the covering defender due to his pace. Wouldnt you prefer to see Godfrey going out to snap forwards with another quick ball playing defender on the cover?

We are not signing Koulibaly, for one we don't need a CB and for two he would go to a team in CL.

Midfield, right wing, right back that's what we need

Of course we need a centre back, unless you would prefer us to continue sitting deep every game.

We have a full house of centre backs but only one who can become top class.

Will a CL club spend 30-35m on a 30 yr old ?
PSG maybe ,no one else will in this climate
We could (wage dependent ) sell Holgate for 20m and we have improved immensely for a small net cost
Agreed we urgently need the players you mentioned ,although out and out wingers may not be on the agenda for a starting 11 if the intention is to play a diamond 4-4-2

if you sell Holgate then you cant play the 3 at the back with him and Godfrey as the wide centre backs. You cant play Keane and Mina in a 3, its suicidal.

We go with Godfrey/Holgate + one of Keane/Mina as rotation for the new signing.

But Zat told me we were going to cherry-pick all the best players from Inter and Dortmund?

Are you suggesting this isn't true????????????????????????????????????

Incorrect. I said we could afford to do that.

Thats due to Moshiri and USMs appetite.

Both of those clubs have financial issues due to the way dortmund is run and Inter's Chinese owners pulling the plug.

Couple of points:
You'd sell Holgate (at 24 and covers 2 positions) for less than Bournemouth sold Nathan Ake to City for.
Then bring in a 30 year old CB (who I think is overrated) so we'd have 4 centre backs, 2 are regular starters, and one of whom is one of the highest earners in the squad (Mina £120k a week)?

Madness.

Exactly. If you sell then its Keane (peak value) or Mina (2 years left)...or both and bring in a younger top notch centre back with world class potential.

Think Ruben Dias effect for City...alongside Godfrey.

Agree on this.

The way I see it - Walcott, Bernard, Tosun saves £300k a week wages. Bolasie is also off the books. Selling Delph, Kean, Kenny, should bring in at least £50mill minimum on fees.

Brands has always said he wants the transfer policy to end up being that each window there's 2 or 3 keys players brought in to boost the 1st team.

It should be the quality not the quantity. We've made this mistake in the past and panic bought 2nd or 3rd choice options..

If we go 3 at the back then we can do this.

If we go for an expansive 4 then we would need to splash on multiple wide players in addition to CB, CM and RB

Holgate doesn’t really cover 2 positions, you may as well say 3. Because he’s played in midfield. Doesn’t make him good enough in then positions.

And if city wanted Holgate, we’d probably get 10mil more.

Holgate at worst can play CB in a 4 + RCB in a 3. In addition he can play both full back positions as long as were deep and hes focused on defence.

Keane/Mina can only play CB. Both in a 4 or a 3 they play CB. Thats all.

Godfrey of course, similar to Holgate. Ancelotti said he likes these types and both of them arent at their peak value and have many years in them.

I think you could get away with Mina + someone with pace, but I wouldn't fancy Keane's chances in an open team.

There was a moment in the Southampton game last season where he stepped into midfield to meet an attacker, only for the lad to lose him by running around in a circle, like Bugs Bunny evading Elmer Fudd. To his credit, though, he very rarely lets himself get pulled into those situations these days (or if he does, it isn't usually funny enough to stick with me).

We never play a high line with Keane being a liability.

So many people think hes pracitcally world class while hes just an effective lump to have in a deep defence.

Find a buyer for him and lets go and sign actual top players.

 

[Brisan123]

Couple of points:
You'd sell Holgate (at 24 and covers 2 positions) for less than Bournemouth sold Nathan Ake to City for.
Then bring in a 30 year old CB (who I think is overrated) so we'd have 4 centre backs, 2 are regular starters, and one of whom is one of the highest earners in the squad (Mina £120k a week)?

Madness.

Who is paying more than 20m for Holgate
Koubailly is still world class ,if you think different than the experts that's fine
Carlo prefers Keane and Mina to Holgate as a CB
That is obvious by his team selection

 

[Brisan123]

Why maybe not Godfrey? He’s started virtually every game and been our most successful signing of last Summer. What a strange thing to say.

Godfrey is not a guaranteed starter if all defenders are fit
The other 3 new signings are
Godfrey is definitely a very successful signing as he will only get better

 

[Lewy007]

Not sure if this is irrelevant now but who remembers under bill he signed away the season ticket sales for an upfront loan same as the shirt sales so any loss of revenue in those areas didn’t matter, is that deal still the case now or has it run its course? As if it is then surely the pandemic with loss of match day revenue is pretty irrelevant, also our match day prices are very family friendly aren’t they, moshiri in the agm said we’ve lost around 60m due to Covid didn’t he? Don’t see how Everton can lose that in match day revenues don’t know what else we’ve lost out on due to the pandemic, so I think it’s safe to say our famous accountant has pulled a fast one to make things look worse on the books than what they are

 

[Lewy007]

Who is paying more than 20m for Holgate
Koubailly is still world class ,if you think different than the experts that's fine
Carlo prefers Keane and Mina to Holgate as a CB
That is obvious by his team selection

Maybe a Spurs who hate their defenders, Jose loved Maguire and practically got himself sacked over Man Utd not buying him when he was there, could sell him on the idea that Keane is similar to Maguire

 

[Stephenlloyd]

To all the glass half full fans. Who wet their knickers every summer over FFP. And we’ve got no money, covid, big losses, we can’t sell the deadwood

 

[Nymzee]

To all the glass half full fans. Who wet their knickers every summer over FFP. And we’ve got no money, covid, big losses, we can’t sell the deadwood

We had no FFP last Summer and spent £60m.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

Godfrey is not a guaranteed starter if all defenders are fit
The other 3 new signings are
Godfrey is definitely a very successful signing as he will only get better

I agree, but I think with his versatility he will play a lot of games next season, particularly if we get into Europe and go a long way into the cups.

I am hoping in the summer we make 4 signings, RB, RW, CF and CM. They just need to be the right quality, we need players who will push the starting 11, not more deadwood.

We have 5 players on loan who will either be free transfers in the summer (Bolasie and Walcott) or we will need to sell (Tosun, Kenny and Kean). Then there is Besic out of contract and we need to offload Delph. There is probably only Kean who will command a decent fee, so it's going to be tough for Brands

 

[kenada_blue]

Holgate doesn’t really cover 2 positions, you may as well say 3. Because he’s played in midfield. Doesn’t make him good enough in then positions.

And if city wanted Holgate, we’d probably get 10mil more.

He's a young, English, and very good centre back who's still got 3 years left on his contract. £20mill would get laughed at.

 

[JMT]

To all the glass half full fans. Who wet their knickers every summer over FFP. And we’ve got no money, covid, big losses, we can’t sell the deadwood

Get the photoshopped Mbappe in an Everton shirt ready

 

[Lanolin]

He's a young, English, and very good centre back who's still got 3 years left on his contract. £20mill would get laughed at.

Reminds me of when everyone was flapping saying we were valuing Kenny too low at £10m, only for it to turn out that nobody was willing to offer any money for him at all. I’d be amazed if anyone was willing to pay much more than £20m for holgate.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

He's a young, English, and very good centre back who's still got 3 years left on his contract. £20mill would get laughed at.

Is he very good.
He’s had a very good half season in 5yrs. Last game at centre back in a 2 was v Fulham

 

[Stephenlloyd]

I agree, but I think with his versatility he will play a lot of games next season, particularly if we get into Europe and go a long way into the cups.

I am hoping in the summer we make 4 signings, RB, RW, CF and CM. They just need to be the right quality, we need players who will push the starting 11, not more deadwood.

We have 5 players on loan who will either be free transfers in the summer (Bolasie and Walcott) or we will need to sell (Tosun, Kenny and Kean). Then there is Besic out of contract and we need to offload Delph. There is probably only Kean who will command a decent fee, so it's going to be tough for Brands

I think we will be trying to offload more than that, Bernard will go. I even think iwobi may go if we get a decent price. And Gomes, again it will depend on the price.

I know some will say, we won’t shift them and they maybe right. But I do think the club will be up for selling them if they could

 

[kenada_blue]

Who is paying more than 20m for Holgate
Koubailly is still world class ,if you think different than the experts that's fine
Carlo prefers Keane and Mina to Holgate as a CB
That is obvious by his team selection

If Koubailly was world class, he wouldn't be at Napoli at the start of the end of his career being touted to us at £35mill.

Carlo only prefers Keane and Mina cos we don't have a right back and Holgate plays there.