Everton takeover rumours

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

......despite welcoming change I think it's only natural to feel nervous about the prospect of new owners. We clearly need investment to take us to the next level but the game is littered with failed takeovers. Sometimes it's better the devil you know but I trust the current board will ensure any buyer has the right intentions. If it happens the transition has to be effective.

The failed takeovers probably outnumber the good ones to be honest. Like you say though, the current board (especially Bill) would not sell up if it didn't seem to be in Evertons best interests. Let's hope they're as good at picking new owners as they are picking new managers.

 

[roydo]

A lot of sense there, does look like an opportune time for anyone who was interested in buying an established top half premier league side to take the plunge.

The only advantage Villa have is the ground really, everything else is on our side.

Yep. And lobbing a few bob at a new/redeveloped ground will ultimately provide a better return than lobbing cash at a team. 4 £50m players will get you a top 4, maybe, #LFC/THFC. And little sell on value. Nowt guaranteed thats for sure.

Lobbing £200m at a stadium redevelopment gives you an instant, regular return, and makes the selling of the club down the line so much easier and profitable.

Things like that logic just make me think that I sometimes think we, as Evertonians, sometimes are too close to the club to see it how an investor might.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Would a takeover even push us to the next level? The teams already established above us have such a head start that beating them to a top 4 spot isn't necessarily going to be a regular thing, which it would have to be for us to really push on.
A takeover is inevitable at some point but I'm sceptical it would necessarily take us much higher. Even if we got a mega rich owner with money to burn, aren't there rules about how much they can sink into improving the squad?

You're right, new owners wouldn't be able to try and buy success by buying new playes. But I'd hope any new owners would have more ambition and ideas and so would be able to invest both in the infrastructure of the club and invest in marketing the club to increase our none TV revenues. So it wouldn't be an overnight fix, but if they could grow commercial revenues that extra revenue could then go towards strengthening the squad.

In that scenario you'd be looking at a three to five year plan to get the club on a firmer financial footing needed to give the manager extra funds.

 

[roydo]

You're right, new owners wouldn't be able to try and buy success by buying new playes. But I'd hope any new owners would have more ambition and ideas and so would be able to invest both in the infrastructure of the club and invest in marketing the club to increase our none TV revenues. So it wouldn't be an overnight fix, but if they could grow commercial revenues that extra revenue could then go towards strengthening the squad.

In that scenario you'd be looking at a three to five year plan to get the club on a firmer financial footing needed to give the manager extra funds.

Be happy with that me. Well not ecstatic, but a plan to develop, long term, so the club and the owners benefit, not just one or the other. Which seems to be the situation at most others.

New owners making themselves a few quid by making the club richer, well managed, profitable, and competitive through their work, not rising TV cash, would be ok in my book.

 

[Coffee and TV]

We need owners that are willing and able to commit to a new/improved stadium and improve our commercial performance. This is what we're missing at the moment, since we're currently existing almost hand to mouth, depending on the TV money that comes into the league. Any owner that can do that will be an improvement on what we have now.

 

[Goat]

Even if we got a mega rich owner with money to burn, aren't there rules about how much they can sink into improving the squad?

FFP is no longer worth the paper its written on, if it ever was.


# Net Spend last 5 Years Purchased Gross Sold Nett Per Season

1 Manchester City £472,700,000 £150,300,000 £322,400,000 £64,480,000

2 Manchester United £440,200,000 £139,500,000 £300,700,000 £60,140,000

4 Chelsea £471,209,000 £246,450,000 £224,759,000 £44,951,800

3 Liverpool £349,000,000 £186,370,000 £162,630,000 £32,526,000

 

[Chang Elephant]

I trust the current board will ensure any buyer has the right intentions.

Like you say though, the current board (especially Bill) would not sell up if it didn't seem to be in Evertons best interests

You must be scratching your heads then lads as to why such a well intentioned board with EFC interests at heart tried to take us to Kirkby

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

You're right, new owners wouldn't be able to try and buy success by buying new playes. But I'd hope any new owners would have more ambition and ideas and so would be able to invest both in the infrastructure of the club and invest in marketing the club to increase our none TV revenues. So it wouldn't be an overnight fix, but if they could grow commercial revenues that extra revenue could then go towards strengthening the squad.

In that scenario you'd be looking at a three to five year plan to get the club on a firmer financial footing needed to give the manager extra funds.

Certainly will have to be a smart and considered approach rather than brute financial force. Think we'd all have been happy with that anyway though?

FFP is no longer worth the paper its written on, if it ever was.


# Net Spend last 5 Years Purchased Gross Sold Nett Per Season

1 Manchester City £472,700,000 £150,300,000 £322,400,000 £64,480,000

2 Manchester United £440,200,000 £139,500,000 £300,700,000 £60,140,000

4 Chelsea £471,209,000 £246,450,000 £224,759,000 £44,951,800

3 Liverpool £349,000,000 £186,370,000 £162,630,000 £32,526,000

The beauty of being rich that is. The rules apply just a little bit less the richer you get.

Although as @roydo said even if you can pump £200 million into playing staff, it's not always worth it. As Liverpool confirm with the figures above.

 

[PhilM]

Although as @roydo said even if you can pump £200 million into playing staff, it's not always worth it. As Liverpool confirm with the figures above.

Liverpool's problem is that they have sold their key players and spent the subsequent proceeds on mainly tosh. It's been an out-in process.

They've lost the likes of Suarez, Sterling (still overly rated) and Agger and brought in Lambert, Origi, Lallana, Markovic et al.

If you pay over-inflated prices for mediocre players and generally waste money then you won't succeed regardless of your expenditure.

The likes of City, United and Chelsea have in the mainstay (a few silly signings on the way) bought much better players and at better prices.

I genuinely think that with an extra £30-40m to spend in a transfer window we could be a consistent top six team, if not even higher.

 

[deipnosophist]

Well just imagine WHP with a weekday rush hours worth of people with one rail station and less places to park.

Wouldn't @Pat's Van 's mono rail idea alleviate the issues you mention?

 

[Toffeelover]

For me, I see 73 pages on this one, add to that all the other speculative threads we have had and where are we now? Still no moved forward or backward I have to say since BK commented umpteen years ago the club was for sale. I remain the cynic.

 

[Woolly Blue]

For me, I see 73 pages on this one, add to that all the other speculative threads we have had and where are we now? Still no moved forward or backward I have to say since BK commented umpteen years ago the club was for sale. I remain the cynic.

@Diogenes the Cynic

 

[Toffeelover]

@Diogenes the Cynic

Thank you, would it have been any different if I said realist?

 

[roydo]

For me, I see 73 pages on this one, add to that all the other speculative threads we have had and where are we now? Still no moved forward or backward I have to say since BK commented umpteen years ago the club was for sale. I remain the cynic.

Understandable mate. I just think the sands of time shifting has made a sale inevitable, soon. Maybe not this one, whoever or whatever EFC are, or are not, talking to. But something has to give before the current owner isnt around to make or influence a decision.

 

[Toffeelover]

Understandable mate. I just think the sands of time shifting has made a sale inevitable, soon. Maybe not this one, whoever or whatever EFC are, or are not, talking to. But something has to give before the current owner isnt around to make or influence a decision.

If anything happened to BK, I wonder who is the beneficiary in his will and thus own the shares?