Everton Transfer Thread 2016

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Think we can do better mate.

If Rom goes, we need two proven goalscorers in.

Wilson kind of reminds me of Bamford, and just isn't cut-out to be a consistent starter/challenge to be that in a tame that wants to be in the top half of the Prem yet.

I think he's got what it takes

Ideally we'd buy a first choice striker and then Wilson would either be back up or 2nd striker if we started playing with two up top

If he impresses while on loan, buy him the next season

If he doesn't, send him back to United and move on

Seems like a low risk option with a possible big upside

He's got to be a better option than Kone right?

 

[toffeejack]

Sorry but if we had a budget greater than £30m two summers ago why would we only have £30m this year with a rich owner and new TV money????

because people like to moan

 

[toffeejack]

I'd have James Wilson on loan next season if Man United are agreeable to it

ffs mikey, stop it! haha
he can't even get near a united attack which isn't exactly deadly. constantly getting overtaken by youngsters, nowhere near good enough for us.

even callum wilson would be better.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

ffs mikey, stop it! haha
he can't even get near a united attack which isn't exactly deadly. constantly getting overtaken by youngsters, nowhere near good enough for us.

even callum wilson would be better.

I think he's just been unlucky to have United managers who haven't fancied him mate

I think a change of scenery to a team that's willing to give him a chance in the Prem, and you'd see a marked improvement

Again, it's a low risk loan deal that might pay off down the road

I wouldn't pay actual money for him until he's at least had a loan and done something to show he deserves a proper deal

 

[toffeejack]

I think he's just been unlucky to have United managers who haven't fancied him mate

I think a change of scenery to a team that's willing to give him a chance in the Prem, and you'd see a marked improvement

Again, it's a low risk loan deal that might pay off down the road

even proper united cast offs like phill neville weren't really good enough for us, not to take us to CL or regular europa visits, which is what we should be aiming for. Phill neville played a lot more in a much much better united era.

Let somebody else take that risk if it has to be done. The fact i barely know who he is in this day and age speaks volumes.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

even proper united cast offs like phill neville weren't really good enough for us, not to take us to CL or regular europa visits, which is what we should be aiming for. Phill neville played a lot more in a much much better united era.

Let somebody else take that risk if it has to be done. The fact i barely know who he is in this day and age speaks volumes.

It might as well be us though mate

Sometimes you have to take a chance in hope it pays off

Again, I'm not saying don't buy other strikers, I'm just saying get him on loan as a back up option

It's low cost and he might turn good

Let's face it, Conor is hardly going to get a chance playing up top is he? And where's that Uruguayan lad we signed last summer?

If we haven't got any young strikers of our own, we might as well pinch one of United's and see if it works out

If it doesn't, it's barely cost us anything. If it does, we have another striking option at a good deal

 

[sageyefc]

Ffs mikey

 

[orly]

Jeison Murillo linked in the paper; awesome CB.

Isn't he the one who wrote that God awful song El Fraudo was wobbling about to?

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

To me, there's little to no risk

If we sell Lukaku, we're obviously going to spend a hefty amount to get a new first choice striker in

If we move on Kone, we're going to need a new back up striker, so we'll sign one

Along with Niasse, that's 3 strikers

I think you need at least 4, and we can't really afford to spend money on 3 strikers when we need players in other areas

We could promote from the youth set up, but we don't really have a ready made option there

Wilson has been on loan in the Championship this season and scored 5 in 24. He scores roughly 20% of the time

As a back up striker, that isn't the worst return

So when we need a 4th striker, we can give him a chance. We only have to pay half his wages and we can trial him out over the course of the season, seeing both how he does on the pitch and how he conducts himself in training etc

If he impresses then maybe we offer him a contract and keep him around?

If he doesn't impress, we say "Thanks for giving us a year of your career James, but it's not worked out, good luck in the future"

Either way, it's cost us basically nothing and then in the next window we can spend again when there's funds to do so or we can check the youth set up again to see if there's anyone there we can promote

I really don't get why this is such a head scratcher for some people

It's a potentially good piece of business that, if it goes pear shaped, doesn't really cost us anything barring half the wages of a young lad whose probably not on that much to begin with anyway

Not every signing has to be a big-time important one. The smaller deals are important too

 

[Goat]

It doesn't add up does it. We were operating at break even before. Now like everyone else we have an extra 50m extra in TV money. Even with a net spend of 100m this year that's still only an extra 50m from Moshiri. We're hardly Man City especially when you consider how much money City, Utd and probably even Arsenal and Chelsea are going to spend this summer.

We just have to wait and see. Everything else is speculation.

We dont have an extra 50m in tv money.

Wish people would stop with that line.

We cant compete with most clubs in the league due to how badly we are run off the park, thats going to take time, even if Usmanov came in tomorrow we can only spend 105m on players due to FFP rules. The papers printing bullcrap about us giving the manager 150m to spend is utter poppycock, the MAX we can spend is 105m, factoring in our last accounts we are running at almost even, give or take a few Mill.

So come the Summer when United, Chelsea, City and the vermin across the park outspend us due to the vast sums they make each year the fume on here will be immense and I fully expect people to start calling Moshiri Robert Earl, due to them not understanding how FFP works.

Basically we need to grow the club massively OFF the park before we can do some serious damage on the park, stadium issue needs addressing and every single commercial deal we have needs binning off and improving.

Its still gonna be the best Summer we have had in years, theres no doubt in my mind about that and yes most of it will be funded with the sale of Lukaku and possibly Stones, but as somebody else said, at least most of the money wont disappear down an other operating costs black hole and there will be money to spend if we can somehow dodge the FFP restrictions.

 

[BlueToff]

I think he's got what it takes

Ideally we'd buy a first choice striker and then Wilson would either be back up or 2nd striker if we started playing with two up top

If he impresses while on loan, buy him the next season

If he doesn't, send him back to United and move on

Seems like a low risk option with a possible big upside

He's got to be a better option than Kone right?

True, but we're going to have upwards of £50 million to spend from the sale of Rom, not including the starting budget and any money from other sales. We shouldn't be taking on United's youngsters.

 

[Goat]

To me, there's little to no risk

If we sell Lukaku, we're obviously going to spend a hefty amount to get a new first choice striker in

If we move on Kone, we're going to need a new back up striker, so we'll sign one

Along with Niasse, that's 3 strikers

I think you need at least 4, and we can't really afford to spend money on 3 strikers when we need players in other areas

We could promote from the youth set up, but we don't really have a ready made option there

Wilson has been on loan in the Championship this season and scored 5 in 24. He scores roughly 20% of the time

As a back up striker, that isn't the worst return

So when we need a 4th striker, we can give him a chance. We only have to pay half his wages and we can trial him out over the course of the season, seeing both how he does on the pitch and how he conducts himself in training etc

If he impresses then maybe we offer him a contract and keep him around?

If he doesn't impress, we say "Thanks for giving us a year of your career James, but it's not worked out, good luck in the future"

Either way, it's cost us basically nothing and then in the next window we can spend again when there's funds to do so or we can check the youth set up again to see if there's anyone there we can promote

I really don't get why this is such a head scratcher for some people

It's a potentially good piece of business that, if it goes pear shaped, doesn't really cost us anything barring half the wages of a young lad whose probably not on that much to begin with anyway

Not every signing has to be a big-time important one. The smaller deals are important too

I love you Mikey, but you are chatting utter wham if you think we should loan a striker who scored 5 in 24 in the freaking Championship.

Comparing people to Kone is the lowest bar you can hit.

Im better than Kone.

We currently have Lukaku, Kone, Niasse and the young Swiss lad, in an ideal world we sell Lukaku for 65m, we pay somebody 5m to take Kone and we hope that Niasse gets 5 years and we can cancel his contract.

We then buy Milik and Janssen and win the fing lot mert.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

True, but we're going to have upwards of £50 million to spend from the sale of Rom, not including the starting budget and any money from other sales. We shouldn't be taking on United's youngsters.

If we had good strikers in the youth set up, I'd agree with you

When was the last time we brought a good striker through?

Defenders? Yes

Midfielders? Yes

Even Spingthorpe seemed like a decent keeper

We're going to spend on a back up striker and possible a first choice striker if Rom leaves

But what about 3rd or 4th choice options?

Normally you'd give that to a youth player, but do we have a youth striker ready for that role?

I think not, hence why I'd loan Wilson

I'm not saying we should give United actual money for him, give him a decent wedge each week and make him first choice

If I was, you could all say I'd lost my mind without much complaint from me

But that's not what I'm saying

I'm saying we should use him as a cheap loan option in conjunction to the big signings I also want us to make

 

[timmyistop]

Rumours of wholesale changes are probably true, but we are unlikely to lose anybody we would miss and those we will miss, we will be given vast sums to replace.

Martinez made some astute signings, but he also signed some utter stinkers, some of which will continue to litter the squad next season unless we can ship them out.

Im pretty sure the new manager will be given the cash to move us forward, im pretty sure there isnt a set amount set in stone, just like im pretty sure we are unlikely to spend 40m on a GK.

I will be very surprised if we break our transfer record this season, but I fully expect us to spend upwards of 100m, thats if we lose Lukaku and Stones, as I say, if those 2 go for the sums rumoured it will be some summer.

I think we will definitely break our transfer record, I also think something like 16 out of the premiership teams will too. Nice time to be a football agent!

 

[andy4efc]

We dont have an extra 50m in tv money.

Wish people would stop with that line.

We cant compete with most clubs in the league due to how badly we are run off the park, thats going to take time, even if Usmanov came in tomorrow we can only spend 105m on players due to FFP rules. The papers printing bullcrap about us giving the manager 150m to spend is utter poppycock, the MAX we can spend is 105m, factoring in our last accounts we are running at almost even, give or take a few Mill.

So come the Summer when United, Chelsea, City and the vermin across the park outspend us due to the vast sums they make each year the fume on here will be immense and I fully expect people to start calling Moshiri Robert Earl, due to them not understanding how FFP works.

Basically we need to grow the club massively OFF the park before we can do some serious damage on the park, stadium issue needs addressing and every single commercial deal we have needs binning off and improving.

Its still gonna be the best Summer we have had in years, theres no doubt in my mind about that and yes most of it will be funded with the sale of Lukaku and possibly Stones, but as somebody else said, at least most of the money wont disappear down an other operating costs black hole and there will be money to spend if we can somehow dodge the FFP restrictions.

Lukaku's sale would give us an extra £60m to spend overall. To me, he's as good as gone. I dont know which reputable source came up with the £100m in the first place.

Remember it's net spend. Assuming you're not including the Lukaku sale in the £105m.

Generally though, spot on, can't stand people saying we'll spend X amount without knowing we're not allowed to do that.

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FFP will fall on it's arse soon anyway, restriction to trade as of EU law and there has already been cases where a team have argued, "we have a billiionaire owner, we don't need restrictions as there is no chance of us going under" and have won. (I think thjis particular one was Locomotiv Moscow.