People for get how bad he was for us in his last season. Everyone was made up when we sold him.
Cruyff turns in the box, bottling tackles and mistake after mistake after mistake. The lad was terrible in his last season.
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People for get how bad he was for us in his last season. Everyone was made up when we sold him.
Cruyff turns in the box, bottling tackles and mistake after mistake after mistake. The lad was terrible in his last season.
Yeah it's a tough call. Without knowing what the financial situation is it's difficult to know what's for the best. I wouldn't go out and get any old centre half because I think the 3 senior ones can do a job, but I would have been happy if Gabriel had come here (theoretically I mean, I'm no expert on him but he seemed to be the profile of defender I would like to see added).
John?
In an ideal world, this is the scenario that we should be wanting and pushing for. While there were glimpses of a player there, it is nothing more than a glimpse.
The fans have got carried away before with our young players after only a small snapshot, and it usually doesn't end well. As the saying goes: patience is a virtue.
Unless he's a real diamond in the rough (genuine PL talent already), we should be looking to develop him in the U23 or on loan considering his long-term future.
We should be looking at a fourth CB, ideally a top one, and the likes of Mina and Keane will do in the short to medium term, while Holgate and Jarrad long-term.
That's all in an ideal world however where we have the money to do so.
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
If we get Allan and Doucouré, surely we have to sell some midfielders?
Allan, Doucouré, Davies, Delph, Sigurdsson, Gbamin and Gomes all for two/three positions?
Allan, Doucouré, Davies, Delph, Sigurdsson, Gbamin and Gomes all for two/three positions?
I am amongst Moyesey's biggest fans. However not a chance of this happening mate.
Jayhow15
Player Valuation: £35m
He wasnt "that" bad. I want defenders to defend but I also want them to be expressive where possible. Stopovers and Cruyff turns in the box were a bit much though.
Arteta10
Player Valuation: £10m
Yeah I agree. After Tom Davies first 2 games plenty of us (myself included) had him earmarked for bigger things than hes gone on to do.
Definitely wouldnt have Jarrad back with the u23s tho now that he has actually made his prem debut. Should be looking at a championship loan or keeping him as 4th choice IMO
Bullens Rd
Player Valuation: £35m
Sell all apart from Gomes and Gbamin then find a loan signing to bolster the ranks.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Davies will be first to go.
Gbamin has been injured and we have seen him play twice only.
Delph possibly be lb cover if we can’t find any buyer.
If he in indeed as our fourth choice come the start of the season, I would still to some extent have him playing with the U23s as he needs to be playing regularly.
Regardless of making his debut, he's still a young lad who is learning his trade and that comes through coaching (with first squad or XI) and regular game time.
Let's not forget, he's just eighteen and has a long time to go, so ideally I wouldn't want it rushed; a loan sooner rather than later would probably be best for this.
If we really want to push on, we need good defenders who are ready in the here and now. Too many false dawns before: Browning; Davies; Garbutt etc etc.
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
I don't think I'll ever rate him, but I would probably keep him around for another year if the plan was to carry on sitting deep more often than not.
Now's the time to get shut if Ancelotti intends to play more expansively, though.
There's also the issue of his contract, which I think has two years left to run. I wouldn't like to see him sign an extension, but then the club can't really afford to let his value drop, either.
Arteta10
Player Valuation: £10m
To be fair I think at the time our assesment of Stones was based on the fact that he was young and we thought he was going to develop into a top CB and cut the mistakes out. I dont ever remember thinking 'this lad is a top class CB right now'. It was more 'This lad has all the potential to be a top class CB'
He hasn't really progressed tho since he left.
So if we had him back now, as a 26 year old he would be judged a lot more harshly than as a 20 year old
you ever thought of working as a comedian? You would be pretty good.
Loans can be pretty disastrous though.
They can end up in the clutches of some anti-diluvian clogger who toughens them up but halts their development.
If he is with our first team, he will play some games this year. He will also learn from Ancelotti.
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