Everton v Crystal Palace. 21st Sep at 16.00.

[mythbuster]

To be fair, Imagine we lose our next two games which is very possible as its Liverpool and Utd away, We would have 5 points from 7 games

We have the worst defence in the league, Something has to happen quickly

Do we really have the worst defence in the league though? Aren't those things best assessed at the end of the season?

 

[Boss_Blue]

This thread is giving me eye aids

 

[orly]

To be fair, Imagine we lose our next two games which is very possible as its Liverpool and Utd away, We would have 5 points from 7 games

We have the worst defence in the league, Something has to happen quickly

I try and stay positive, but we are in a touch of trouble if we lose the next two league games - and they are very hard games too.

 

[Del]

I wouldn't normally be so knee-jerk, but Martinez really dropped a bol***k today. Coleman's injury apart, it should have been the same team as Thursday.

Granted, we controlled the 1st half, but we failed to capitalise, and Martinez failed to calm the lads at half time.

Poor management, and the subs were just totally ridiculous.

Time for him (and the team) to step back up to the plate. We've taken a step forward and then two back again this week.

So then his starting 11 wasn't that bad, Its not his fault player fail to put away chances

 

[BlueToff]

Bottom line is we underestimated Palace again today.

Jags played OK but Distin was very poor and the defence is just so much better with Stones in as a CB - not a RB

 

[Del]

Do we really have the worst defence in the league though? Aren't those things best assessed at the end of the season?

Well yes, We do, 13 goals in 5 games ffs, I mean there's no evidence at all that its going to improve, Wolfsburg could have scored a couple if we are honest

 

[BluenosePaul]

We all happy we played such a strong team in the Europa League. Told you it would backfire and bite us in the league

 

[Ring master]

We all happy we played such a strong team in the Europa League. Told you it would backfire and bite us in the league

i would have played the same team from thrusday today,bar the injured players off course,and swapped players for swansea,just the same as playing wed/sat is europa and sunday,saying that it must mean naismith is playing tuesday, as didnt expect eto and lukaku to start today,just one of them,with the one not playing today starting tuesday.

 

[mythbuster]

Bottom line is we underestimated Palace again today.

Jags played OK but Distin was very poor and the defence is just so much better with Stones in as a CB - not a RB

LOL - It's Distin's fault now. Just a quick recollection, can @Prevenger17 photoshop a wreath on to pictures of Jags, Distin, Stones, Martinez, Howard, Lukaku and the bench?

 

[BlueToff]

So then his starting 11 wasn't that bad, Its not his fault player fail to put away chances

The line-up was strange though. Mirallas (in the form he's in) or Naismith would've bagged that chance that Osman had.

I'll always stick by that you shouldn't change a winning team (injuries as an exception).

As soon as we went 1 up we seemed to sit back, and go to 3 in midfield. Why pack the midfield against a team that plays on the counter?

For me, we just need to stop underestimating teams. Martinez should've learnt his lesson from Palace at Goodison last season. And surely he knows that Osman can't last more than 45 minutes.

 

[BlueToff]

So then his starting 11 wasn't that bad, Its not his fault player fail to put away chances

The line-up was strange though. Mirallas (in the form he's in) or Naismith would've bagged that chance that Osman had.

I'll always stick by that you shouldn't change a winning team (injuries as an exception).

As soon as we went 1 up we seemed to sit back, and go to 3 in midfield. Why pack the midfield against a team that plays on the counter?

For me, we just need to stop underestimating teams. Martinez should've learnt his lesson from Palace at Goodison last season. And surely he knows that Osman can't last more than 45 minutes.

 

[toffeejack]

what happened?

ffs everton, that's an utterly terrible result fair play. why do we continually bottle it when a good chance arises to capitilize on our rivals' poor results? utd, spurs and RS all losing and we go an bottle it.

missed the game and it seems it was basically all howard's fault?

 

[Boss_Blue]

LOL - It's Distin's fault now. Just a quick recollection, can @Prevenger17 photoshop a wreath on to pictures of Jags, Distin, Stones, Martinez, Howard, Lukaku and the bench?

Surrounded by empty bottles of bleach please @Prevenger17

 

[BlueToff]

LOL - It's Distin's fault now. Just a quick recollection, can @Prevenger17 photoshop a wreath on to pictures of Jags, Distin, Stones, Martinez, Howard, Lukaku and the bench?

I didn't say it was his fault. The team as a whole lacked any link or cohesion. Just saying he looked very shaky, again.

 

[mythbuster]

Well yes, We do, 13 goals in 5 games ffs, I mean there's no evidence at all that its going to improve, Wolfsburg could have scored a couple if we are honest

Bit like saying Liverpool were xmas day champs. Howard cost us today mate. We were 1-0 up, 2 Howard gaffes later we were 2-1 down. You know this as well as I do.