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Everton v West Brom. Sat 24th Aug. @ 15.00.

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Just sick of drawing. Absolutely sick of it. Was the same under Moyes last season and it makes us look bang average and generally negative imo.

We need to go absolutely gung-ho on these teams and put a bit of effort into doing it. If it means we lose a couple more games a season it'll be worth it if we finish on more points, but we just don't seem to want to take the chance....
 
What a crap ref. Barks and Coleman were boss. Naisy continued to make a good impression. Jela and Kone were ok but not enough balls in. Ultimately we were unlucky not to win but we could've shown some urgency earlier in the game.

That's more like it. Nice to see a considered opinion, rather than some of the rabid stuff on here. :huh:
 
Just sick of drawing. Absolutely sick of it. Was the same under Moyes last season and it makes us look bang average and generally negative imo.

Heres the thing

We are average

Osman,Barkley,Kone,Jelavic,Pienaar and Naismith would struggle to get in a mid table team, Would those players get in the Southampton side or even Norwich's team?

We need to stop thinking we are in the elite because its obvious we aren't
 
tbh I was only half kidding about sticking Coleman upfront. The guy was our biggest goal threat today. Had to laugh near the end when Jelavic and Coleman were in WBA's corner, Jela just looked overwhelmed and Coleman took the ball of him and just dribbled through the defense.
 
Heres my Thoughts

1 - Is it time to drop Jelavic, and play Kone and Anichebe ahead of him ?
2 - Whats up with Mirrallas ? hes so frustrating to watch at times
3 - would't Heitinga be more effective in CM than Osman, I doesn't get caught in possession as much and might have a better range of passing.
4- Barkley looked decent again, Also Felliani was decent, unlucky not to win it for us
5 - What was the point in bringing Naismith on ? wouldn't Delofeau have been a more ambitious sub.

It was just frustrating today, all though West Brom set out for the draw with men behind the ball.
 

Heres the thing

We are average

Osman,Barkley,Kone,Jelavic,Pienaar and Naismith would struggle to get in a mid table team, Would those players get in the Southampton side or even Norwich's team?

We need to stop thinking we are in the elite because its obvious we aren't

Pienaar yes.

Hopefully Gibson will come straight in for Ossie. I dunno I think we need a striker more than anything, no reason not to start Kone against cardiff.

Early days yet though boys jesus.
 
tbh I was only half kidding about sticking Coleman upfront. The guy was our biggest goal threat today. Had to laugh near the end when Jelavic and Coleman were in WBA's corner, Jela just looked overwhelmed and Coleman took the ball of him and just dribbled through the defense.

That feller's a fraud. If we got an offer for him I'd be delighted. An absolute charlatan.
 
Just sick of drawing. Absolutely sick of it. Was the same under Moyes last season and it makes us look bang average and generally negative imo.

We need to go absolutely gung-ho on these teams and put a bit of effort into doing it. If it means we lose a couple more games a season it'll be worth it if we finish on more points, but we just don't seem to want to take the chance....

We LOST to both Norwich and WBA last season. Draws are better than losses.

Having said that, we didn't play very well today and didn't do enough to win. Last week we had it in the bag until Jags' howler.
 
tbh I was only half kidding about sticking Coleman upfront. The guy was our biggest goal threat today. Had to laugh near the end when Jelavic and Coleman were in WBA's corner, Jela just looked overwhelmed and Coleman took the ball of him and just dribbled through the defense.

Stuff like that speaks volumes about mentality...Seamus is a top lad, never gives up.
 
top marks goes to naismith....because he fooled the DM management team that he s a premiership level footballer and now he s done the same to RM team
 

Jimmy Hill

If the rationale was to have less draws then it doesn't look like its really working. If the rationale was to have mora goals its not really working either It only benefits Chelsea, Man utd, city etc.

Maybe something like a 2pts draw and 5 for a win would be OK. The way its looking we'll go undefeated this year finish with 38 pts and get relegated.

F--k Jimmy Hill.
 
Just sick of drawing. Absolutely sick of it. Was the same under Moyes last season and it makes us look bang average and generally negative imo.

We need to go absolutely gung-ho on these teams and put a bit of effort into doing it. If it means we lose a couple more games a season it'll be worth it if we finish on more points, but we just don't seem to want to take the chance....

We had over 20 shots, hit the post and the crossbar. The goals will come. We were unlucky today.
 
it's always hard to break down a team with 10 men behind the ball. I thought at times we played one pass too many when players could have taken a shot. If either of Felli/Colemans shots/cross had gone in everyone would be saying it was the least we deserved. I thought we looked a bit more direct when Kone came on. And towards the end, Kone was running at effectively the last defender and Felli cracked Brunt off the ball to needlessly give away a free kick. I was fuming at that
 
So **** in the final third it's unreal.

It'll be all too predictable when they go one up.

Why on earth is Baines playing the ball out there ffs? Play on to dick until the referee blows his whistle. Certainly won't be putting the ball out of play like that at United - lack of winner's mentality there Leighton.

Ps Osman [Poor language removed], useless.

Already fed up of this "style" of play, it's absolutely pathetic.

How many corners do we want to pass up before the opposition go one up and we resort to plan b?

We literally have nothing up front, very disappointing when all over teams are strengthening their first teams.

Jelavic, Kone and Anichebe are worth jack all, and that's it.

A long, hard, disappointing, frustrating season this will be.

WHY DO THEY KEEP FANNYING AROUND ON THE EDGE OF THE BOX???

Joy, another six corners in today's game leading to absolutely nothing. Something badly wrong there. Every single ****ing game, ffs.

**** me Jagielka passing straight to them, shocking.

Martinez, MAKE A CHANGE PLEASE.

Two points from these two games is ****ing terrible, what an awful negative start to the season.

Look at that, the players aren't even arsed about winning. Distin casually passing it to Howard for his goal kick them the keeper taking ages to take it.

****e performance and ****e substitutions. No where near satisfied with what we're seeing so far from Martinez. Dog **** football fannying around with mistake after mistake and showing nothing up front.

BOOOOOOOOOOOO **** off Everton. Useless bastards, ffs. Rubbish performance, take note Martinez. If we can't beat **** like this at home we're not looking good for the season are we? Disgusted by that performance.

Hi mate, I think you should find a dark secluded area and have a lie down, concerned for your welfare here.
 

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